Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Biking Borough??
Is Haringey really a cycling borough? I ask, because cycling always appears to be an afterthough, or a band-aid approach. The Biking Borough announcement states this about Haringey:
Haringey has taken advantage of cycling events in the Borough by promoting cycle security. The Safer Neighbourhood Team have been at a number of events to mark bikes and advise people looking after their bikes. As well as designing cycle safety schemes, Haringey also plans to introduce parking in its new cycle hub, and promote cycling health benefits through the physical activity referral scheme.
So why has the pavement regeneration meant the removal of all the cycle parking? Are we only meant to cycle to a dedicated hub? Where is this hub? So now the days of stopping off at the green lanes shops on my way home from work are over. Far easier for me to shop before I collect my bike near work. Thanks Haringey!
Tags for Forum Posts: Parking, bike, cycling, greenlanes, pavement
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Erm, this may (not) help:
1) The Green Lanes Regeneration consultation document claims
"Potential cycling benefits - further space for cycle parking, and improvements to road layout" , and
"Rationalise and improve cycle facilities where possible - New bins, cycle stands and benches throughout".
I'd like to hope that the new street furniture, including bike stands, will arrive towards the end of the project, and that what's in the consultation document hasn't been filleted.....
2) A TfL press release from Dec. 2012 about funding transport schemes in boroughs states "£149,000 to fund a range of cycling initiatives within Haringey including the development of a cycle hub at Wood Green" but no more detail as to where. Haven't yet found anything on the Haringey Council website.
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Just moseyed down Green Lanes and the waste bins on renewed pavements, at least at the southern end, are definitely not "new bins"...... Yet??
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Well the rejig of the Tottenham one-way system is more than halfway done, and ALL the cycle lanes (still on the cycle roadmaps) have disappeared. How on earth any cyclist is now meant to get round this fast network is a mystery. The pavements are all about 5 metres wide but not even a painted line, let alone a proper segregated pathway, is to be seen. No ASLs either.
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The wide High rd pathway is a "shared" one for foot and bike users. Broad Lane will go down to 20 mph and be narrower. They= TFL, claim Monument way has no space for bike lanes.
When I mentioned the horrid motorway signs in the gyratory stakeholder meeting they said the High rd is an A rd so the signs are normal!
There you go. CARS come FIRST! Stop complaining about having a 5 lane rd going through your town centre! They are spending so much money on improving it!
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There are no signs about shared paths. If this is to happen it needs to be made explicit. I've yet to see anyone cycling on the High Rd pavement. The Broad Lane ones will be plenty wide enough to share, as long as we don't get idiot cyclists going past at 25mph. Pedestrians need to know this more than cyclists, as they will come off worse if it goes wrong. A shared pavement along there makes a lot of sense, because the bus stops mean a special bike path has to zigzag about to go from one edge to the other.
Monument Way has plenty of space for bikes, if not then why was it not designed in, given it is effectively a brown field site now they have knocked down everything alongside.
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pamish, my comment was of course, sarcastic and not 'pointed' at you!
If you use the west pathway between T. Green and 7 Sisters you will see the SMALL blue roundels on the bollards, as well as the stainless steel bike path indications in the footpath to indicate that this wide pavement is, in fact, a shared pedestrian/cycle space.
Having spent some time in Eindhoven. Netherlands. I do think that the whole gyratory could have been better thought out to make it a vastly better town-centre-shared-space to cater for the bus stops and a segregated cycle lane. But that just isn't TFL/London MAyor's policy at the moment.
The problem is that the car users have been given top priority over every one else for no reason. Of course TFL will claim that the traffic needs to be fluid. So all the traffic that used to back up on Broad Lane and at Tottenham Hale will now do so on our town centre High Rd making it a worse place to be! THe dutch have their cars but they all have and use thier bikes on a daily basis. It can be dooe in ondon. It is a massive step change in attitudes and so needs a political decision it start the ball rolliing.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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I understood from what was said at the Haringey Transport Forum that the initiative for the re-jigging of the Tottenham Gyratory came from the Council, and not from TFL. In fact, TFL have voiced numerous complaints about the new traffic flow.
The reason given for the re-introduction of two-way working was to improve pedestrian safety although I personally can't see how having to look for traffic from two directions instead of only one makes things safer for people trying to cross the road..
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The original reason for creating the gyratory, in the 1960s?, was that traffic from the south turning right into Broad Lane, to go home to Essex, made a tailback that stretched to Stamford Hill. Now the tailback starts at the Monument Way junction, as traffic tries to weave its way through the dogs' dinner that is the junction of High Rd/Philip Lane/Monument Way. They haven't even made it a box junction, so everyone has to inch their way through a jam of cars buses and 30-foot-long lorries. No red-light-jumping here, as you couldn't squeeze a bike through the gridlock. Will this get better when the work is finished?
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I'd be interested to know when the one-way system was introduced. I thought it was in the mid-eighties, just after I came back to live in the UK.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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THE Dr. Bike sessions in the parks in the summer were welcome. However, I agree that cycling provision does appear to be an afterthought. In the wake of six cyclist fatalities in London recently, two letters (one mine) about the need for local authorities to do better, in last Thursday's H&H Broadway, attached.
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H&H page 22.pdf, 182 KB
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