Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
New EV parking charges WILL affect residents - more than doubling charging costs
Further to this thread, I have finally received a response from Cllr Cunningham (via Cllr Abela) regarding the proposal by Haringey Council to introduce new parking charges for users of EV charging bays in the borough - and she has confirmed that it WILL include local residents who will be required to pay the additional parking charges on top of their usual resident’s permit for the area, as well as the costs of charging (which are currently advertised by Total Energies as being inclusive of the cost of parking).
This will more than double the cost of a 5-hour charging session (a full charge for an average EV) - from £16.80 (based on the residents’ rate of 48p/kWh and a 7kW charging speed) to £34.95 (including 5 hours’ parking at £3.63 per hour). I’m sure for most this will make the cost of charging locally entirely unaffordable - driving them either to charge further afield (eg at petrol stations where the costs are higher albeit cheaper than what Haringey is planning) or to give up their electric cars entirely.
The consultation document was very unclear as to whether the is new charge would apply to residents - as such I believe making the consultation on this aspect unfair (and of course the visitor parking permit issues rightly took centre stage in the consultation anyway). However it is not clear that there is any recourse to further action at this point, leaving me and no doubt all EV owners locally in an impossible situation.
If anyone else feels concerned by this, I would urge you to email your local councillor and Ann Cunningham, Head of Highways and Parking (Ann.Cunningham@haringey.gov.uk) to raise your concerns and please share this information with others who might be interested, as it doesn’t seem to be widely known.
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Permalink Reply by Paul on
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Lunacy. Can’t see the revenue going up for Total based on this. Just destroyed the business model…
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Permalink Reply by Rich on
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Yea this is really stupid. I was actually in another borough recently, and they actually restricted there slow chargers to residents only (i.e you had to had a permit to use them).
Thanks for chasing this up and bringing to more wide spread attention
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I did some calculations here for a few different cars (that apparently are popular), Happy to add any others if people want (or I'll likely add some when I have time).
Basically you're completely right, this is no longer viable for total energies. In fact, I guess InstaVolt is better now, even on Peak.
(Also if anyone notices that my maths in wrong please let me know)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SVkLLU3nNBZzvOI1meVpQUpCYPI...
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Actually the sheet was unneeded. Basically 7kW chargers will be 100p/kWh, and 22kW chargers will be 65p/kWH.
Given you can get fast chargers at ~55p/kWH for off peak, memebership etc, I don't see anyone using the chargers....
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I’m trying to get on the list for a Kerbo Charge cross pavement channel which is being trialled by the council.
We have solar on the Ladder and a house battery to run the house at night. Feels like we are trying to do the right thing but the council isn’t making it easy for anyone right now…
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Just received the following from TotalEnergies
Thank you for choosing Total Energies.
Thank you for writing to the Haringey Council regarding the recent changes, you may add our email address, evcustomerservices@totalenergies.com, in copy for our reference.
Additionally, we have also been in touch with the Haringey Council to seek clarification on the planned changes. Until we receive confirmation, there will be no changes to our current price plan.
If you have any further questions or require additional assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
I've added them to the thread I sent to Ann (cc'ing my two local councillors a few days ago) so fingers crossed.
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Permalink Reply by KatieH on
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This is positive - and more helpful than the response I got from Total Energies (which was essentially ‘we know nothing’). I have however had my email to Ann Cunningham upgraded to a formal complaint which is being investigated… hopefully we are making gradual progress!
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Just catching up on this, I raised the issue with a councillor back in March, who emailed Seema & cc'd me in, I've chased them up but haven't heard anything further...
This sort of thing really frustrates me, we do the right thing & go EV, but Haringey make it as difficult and as expensive as possible to stick with it. Options I see, is run a cable outside the house - stand guard over it, so no one can complain or charge at the bays & wait in the car...
Kerbo or a scheme like them can't come soon enough, but Haringey will resist as it hits their bottom line...hope someone sees some sense
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Just a update, after emailing Ann and my local councillors, I got a reply from Irene Kirtley, Lead Information Officer.
I am informed that those charging stations that are currently in resident and shared use bays are being changed to pay to park bays. I am waiting to speak with a colleague to obtain timeframes etc and will come back to you shortly.
I'm on vacation at the moment but as well as gathering some public support against this change. I'm going to file a freedom of information request to find out how many ev's overstayed (which was the point of this change to ensure then over), as well as the number of tickets issued to ice cars parked in ev spots.
In addition total energies are in the loop so hopefully will apply some pressure from their side.
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I've asked for the following
1. In EV parking in the borough the number of cars which overstay in a EV charging bay by over 15mins after charging.
2. How many parking tickets were issues to non EV cars parked in EV bays.
3. The number of EV resident parking permits issued in 2023/2024/2025.
4. The number of EV parking spots provided in the borough in 2023/2024/2025 and intended for the rest of 2025/2026/2027.
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Glad you’ve finally had an actual response even though it’s not a helpful one. I’m due a response by the end of today from my concern which was raised to an official complaint… nothing received yet. Total Energies have sent me a helpful response though and they’re clearly looking into it with the council.
Let me know if you have any good ideas for raising more public support around this issue - I’ve been posting on lots of social media groups and I know various people have contacted the council as a result, but not sure I’m reaching many of those affected…
Will be interested to hear the results of the FoI request!
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