Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey Announces Full Closure of Warwick Gardens as a Temporary Measure
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Also during the traffic monitoring period of the roads in and around Green Lanes cars were clocked doing over 60 mph on Wightman and some of The Ladder rung roads. Doesn't sound like good traffic management to me.
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Permalink Reply by Penguin on
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Proof?
I doubt they would do sixty mph over all the traffic calming humps that the ladder has benefited from for years. Sounds like quite a claim
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West Green Road seems to suffer most of the speeding
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Permalink Reply by Graham Charnock on
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It's true that everybody thinks their problems are special to them and distinct from everybody else's. But we all live in the same city. How differently would you manage the traffic flow between Wightman Road and Green Lanes? By the by, I don't think my suspension would last long if I regularly did 60mph over the rung roads.
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I was just picking up on what you said about the Gardens roads Graham
"But there are still people who ignore the humps and platforms and steam up and down at full speed"
It's not a problem unique to the Gardens yet the Gardens have a unique solution it seems.
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Fair enough, but full speed in the Gardensis well under 60mph. We have an active Garden Residents Association which meets quite regularly to discusss and lobby this stuff. Does the ladder have anything similar?
Obviously the council thought the Gardens area problem was sufficiently more problematical; than the ladder's problem, which is why they put in rising bollards in the first place. I can personally live with not having the convenience of direct access to St Anne's Road if it reduces the density of through traffic in the area, which is polluting if nothing else.; And don't get me started on people who sit by the kerb with their engines idling while their partners go shopping and are still there when I walk past them half an hour later. Grump grump grump.
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Permalink Reply by JoeW on
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Graham, You could only describe Wightman Road as a "quite well-managed traffic distribution system" if the only objective is to maximise throughput of motor vehicles through a residential area. In terms of encouraging walking and cycling, it's a transport failure. In terms of reducing pollution, or improving the health and well-being of the people who live and work or go to school in the area, it's a scandal.
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John, Wightman Road is nowhere near equivalent to St Anns. Wightman is a much narrower road with the house fronts much closer to passing traffic. St Anns can comfortably accommodate two lanes of traffic (including a bus route) without needing pavement parking. The capacity of St Anns is much higher (although in fact Wightman currently carries more traffic than St Anns).
Wightman Road is more like a longer version of Warwick Gardens. The traffic survey data showed that the primary function of Wightman is to facilitate rat-running - cars use a bit of Wightman, plus a rung, to cut through between two A-roads - Turnpike Lane and Green Lanes. Just as, before the rising bollard, cars would use an east-west Garden road, plus the remaining bit of Warwick Gardens, to cut through between Green Lanes and St Anns.
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Permalink Reply by Nick on
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Warwick Gardens connects a B road and a residential road. Wightman Road connects an A road and a B road.
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....via 19 residential roads. The Gardens of course was simply a connection between a B road (St Annes) and an A road (Green Lanes) so I don't see the difference.
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