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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Who has permission to trade and to place tables and chairs on the pavement on Green Lanes?

That was the question I asked of Haringey a few weeks ago and had a very prompt reply from them. As you can see from the list below, a number of shops who sell goods on the public footpath or have tables and chairs out have not applied for and and been granted permission. Also, the level of enforcement against those who do so without permission is pathetically low and all seem to have been done on a single day in September 2015. You also might notice that Haringey don't give permission for free standing A boards on the pavement. I passed three of these on Green Lanes just 20 or so minutes ago.

I've also attached the conditions for how goods are to be displayed when permission is given, its very clear that they can't just be propped up on milk crates and boxes.


Dear Mr Anderson,
Re: Freedom of Information Act Request

Thank you for your request for information in which you asked for the following information:

1. All current permissions for
a) Displaying goods for sale on the public footpath 10
b) Siting tables and chairs on the public footpath 8
c) Displaying advertising and A boards on the public footpath We do not licence “A” Boards

For a), b) and c) give the following information
? Address and name of premises granted permission
? Date permission granted
? Date permission expires
? Terms and conditions of the permission please see attached

Shop Front Displays New period Started Licence Expires
Yavuzlar Food Centre, 74-75 Grand Parade, Green Lanes, London, N4 1DX. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Harringay Food, 475 Green Lanes, London, N4 1AJ. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Dostlar Supermarket, 425-427 Green Lanes, London, N4 1EY. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Pound Plus Centre, 525 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N4 1AN. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Turkish Food Market, 385 -387 Green Lanes, London, N4 1EU. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Euro Pound Line Ltd, 515 Green Lanes, London, N4 1AN. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Yavuzlar Food Centre, 74-75 Grand Parade, Green Lanes, London, N4 1DX. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Lynbo General Store, 457 Green Lanes, Harringay, London, N4 1HE. 01/04/2016 31/03/2019
Rainbow Food and Wine, 643 Green Lanes, London, N8 0QY. 01/04/2016 31/03/2018
Lido Housewares Ltd, 479-481 Green Lanes, Harringay, London, N4 1AJ. 01/04/2016 31/03/2018

Tables & Chairs
Antepliler, 43 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1AQ. 14/06/2016 13/12/2016
Antepliler, 44 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1AG. 14/06/2016 13/12/2016
Antepliler, 45-46 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1AG. 14/06/2016 13/12/2016
Antepliler, 47 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1AG. 14/06/2016 13/12/2016
Cafe Mezzo, 64 Grand Parade, London, N4 1AF. 24/06/2016 23/06/2017
Salisbury Hotel, 1 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1JX. 13/05/2016 12/11/2016
Gokyuzu Restaurant, 27 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1LG. 13/05/2016 12/11/2016
Cafe Tramp, 361 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N4 1DY. 01/06/2016 30/11/2016


2. For the period 1 January 2015 to 30 September all enforcement actions relating to
a) Displaying goods for sale on the public footpath 3
b) Siting tables and chairs on the public foot path 2
c) Displaying advertising and A boards on the public footpath 0

For a), b) and c) give the following information
? Address and name of premises enforced against
? Date of enforcement notice
? Conditions of the enforcement notice
? Date of any subsequent legal action 0
? Outcome of the legal action

Enforcement Action taken between 1/1/15 -30/9/15 FPN issued on
Euro Pound Line Ltd, Ground Floor Shop, 515 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N4 1AN. 08/09/2015
Pound Plus Centre, 525 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N4 1AN. 08/09/2015
Gokyuzu Restaurant, 26-28 Grand Parade, Tottenham, London, N4 1LG. 09/06/2015
Rainbow Food & Wine, 643 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N8 0RY. 08/06/2015
Bun & Bar, 553 Green Lanes, Hornsey, London, N8 0RL. 08/09/2015

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Permalink Reply by andy h on December 2, 2016 at 17:16
With you on that one.
And while we're at it -- what about the over growing hedges plants and trees in people's front gardens. Some are so bad that they cover half the pavement .

I HAVE A LITTLE LIST as the song goes.
Permalink Reply by Alyson on December 2, 2016 at 17:42
There is, if you look closely, a lamp post under this foliage. I have been trying in vain to get the council to replace the bulb, they say they can't and have logged it as an overhanging garden problem, I'm not holding my breath while they try to contact owner of said garden . . .
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Permalink Reply by andy h on December 3, 2016 at 8:26
That's incredible.
The background reminds me of some of the ladder roads - swerving between hedges and trees.
Do you think the house owners could be prosecuted ? Restriction of pubic amenity or something.
Permalink Reply by Philip on December 2, 2016 at 17:21

When I lived on Langham Road, I badgered the Council about Estate Agents notice boards and got them all taken down. You need to be a cranky git with too much time on their hands but they DO respond, or at least when you phone them...

Permalink Reply by Paul Harding on December 2, 2016 at 20:14

no shortage of those on HOL ;)

Permalink Reply by andy h on December 2, 2016 at 21:50
Hahahaha! funniest post I've seen for days!
Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on December 2, 2016 at 19:22

Bun & Bar is the one that leaps out there. Enforcement action taken, no licence for tables & chairs and have a variety of chairs and tables outside. You would think that following on from the enforcement action there would be something to check that they then applied for a licence.

Obviously they're not the only one (there are probably more breaching the rules than complying), it would be interesting to know if any had applied for a licence but were turned down or businesses just don't bother. I wonder what the fine is compared to the cost of a licence?

Permalink Reply by andy h on December 2, 2016 at 21:57
Like I said earlier. Start with traffic enforcement dishing out daily fines of £120 . It wouldn't be difficult, they walk up and down the street daily. No extra cost to the council and think of the returns....
Permalink Reply by maggie on December 3, 2016 at 11:46

Yes I was also annoyed by Shef giving fulsome thanks to Green Lane Traders and our wonderful councillor Ali Ozbek for organising the Chistmas lights and Lanterns event. Even Arsenal got a mention but nothing of the real community who organised it and and all the community groups who took part.

Permalink Reply by andy h on December 3, 2016 at 13:48
Osbawn and Maggie - your wrong! If it hadn't been for GL traders the event wouldn't have happened.
Wouldn't have happened without those at Railway Fields the Community gardens the residents associations the councillors or a whole host of volunteers either.
But your Wrong to Diss Shef and his work behind the scenes.
Permalink Reply by Antoinette on December 3, 2016 at 18:00
Not sure why you're apologising to me . .I wasn't there and haven't commented on the speech that I didn't hear. I think your comments should have been directed to Andy H...
Permalink Reply by maggie on December 4, 2016 at 1:17

I agree Shef does a lot behind the scenes, and 'in front' too, however I am annoyed that no-one else got a 'look in', a mention, a credit apart from GL traders and Ali Ozbek for the event.

 What about all the volunteers from, as you say, the "Railway Fields, the Community gardens, the residents associations, the councillors, or a whole host of volunteers" too, and the brass band, the choir, the lantern makers, the children, the 'security' for the parades etc.

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