Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
London City State - sign the petition
As has been highlighted within another HOL discussion today a petition is putting forward the idea of setting up London as a City State with its own powers & linking the City back into the EU. No doubt a fanciful idea but, at the very least, by many of us signing it, we send a strong signal to the rest of the country that London residents see an EU exit as plain daft, time consuming, chaotic and not providing an inclusive future for our children.
At the time of setting up this post over 60,000 have already signed it.
Everything is up for negotiation we are told over the next few months/years. Tell our London politicians that Londoners want to at least to keep the 'freedom of movement' amongst other things ...
Here's the link;
https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from...
Don't forget to post this out to your email contacts & social media.Yes it's silly but so is voting out of the EU!!
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Yes, amusment because I think it's called 'shutting the stable door, after the horse has bolted'.
I'm sure it will sink in over time, how much has actually been thrown away. I have quite a lot to do with Erasmus students. The U.K. will no longer be able take part in this programme. It really is a shame. http://www.erasmusprogramme.com/
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Exactly the sort of scheme I didn't want to see disappear from our children's lives. Trumped. Ever wondered what 'the meek inheriting the earth' would look like?
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Challenge? Yes, by voting at the next general or local election when it comes along - as it must.
There will be no second referendum, that's the difference. This crucial decision is irreversible, which goes against all the usual mechanisms of politics - whatever one's view of the EU.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Just one small point Patricia - the referendum result was not binding, it was advisory and the government has no *legal* obligation to do anything in response. This was how Parliament chose to set it up. So acting on it is purely a question of politics, not the law. For more on this David Allen Green has written about it here:
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/the-problems-with-referendums-in-gene...
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Or try signing the petition on the Government petitions website calling for
HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.
At the point I started tweeting about this earlier today it had just a few thousand signatures. As I write it has 420,000.
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To Jessica, (the chain has reached 8 so won't link to your comment).
"It might turn out fine" for me is not good enough when there is the looming threat of nationalism and populism in Europe and America. People voted on information that was clearly lies and already there is back peddling on promises of huge funds going to the NHS and promises to limit immigration. "Who knows what might come"- exactly.
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I guess if you're the consumer it's up to you to buy what you like, but let me help you out by stacking the shelves with some facts about the referendum voting demographics as provided by the Guardian.
I would hope this could be useful in helping to find a solution to the predicament we're in rather than being used to point the finger.
See the full analysis here.
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Spinning this along a bit further.
Boris has taken a softly, softly approach so far on actually leaving. Maybe he really was only in it for the top job and might try and swing the country back to remain? He does have a track record of changing his views.
I think, parliament will have to decide on whether to actually take the first move to leave. I also imagine that this will inevitably lead to a general election with manifestos on whether to remain or leave. I hope this might lead on to the desperately needed re-alignment of political parties in the U.K., with perhaps a left socialist party, a centrist social/liberal party, a centre right party, and further right (anti) party (not neo-N). Many MPs now find themselves in parties with which they have nothing in common. The old parties are dinosaurs and not really 21st century friendly. I think this has led to the 'they're all the same' claims and the complete disaffection that has been shown in this referendum.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Just for information - I thought we now had fixed-term Parliaments which would presumably make votes of no confidence obsolete ?
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Good point. Not sure what the situation is for say, calling an election for May next year due to the chaos around this referendum. But France & The Netherlands may have called their own referendums by then anyway.
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