Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Wood green - underneath the shopping city bridge
Hi guys,
Does anyone know if a new railing will be installed under the bridge ? they have replaced the floor slabs and removed the old railing on one side however it has been without a new railing now for over 3 months?
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Permalink Reply by Peter on
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Yeah very!
its just weird to be honest, not just that but how they've gone about a few things in the wood green area improvments
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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I was going into Morrisons the other day and was amazed to see where they had put what looks like a planting bed almost right in front of the entrance. Sadly I do not have a picture and I do not remember seeing it on my last venture 'up-north'.
That's not going to get walked over, is it now?
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Talking of muddy spaces and unfinished work.
The railings at the Turnpike Lane, Green lanes junction on Duckett's Common were moved back a few yards for some unexplained reason, incidentally losing a couple of inoffensive benches which have never been replaced.
Who could have foreseen that people would take a short cut across the grass turning it into a muddy eyesore ?
A child of six, probably, but not the Friends of Ducketts Common.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Classic desire lines/paths. Examples of the "Tragedy of the Commons". Though entirely avoidable.
With snow, a corner like this could have people enjoying mud-sledging. In a dry summer, it'll be packed mud. After all, what's the point of budgets and staff with know-how and TLC for the upkeep of parks and green spaces? In Nick Walkley's "new era" it all takes care of itself.Maybe it's time to reread John Kenneth Galbraith on private affluence and public squalor?
On the other hand, perhaps consultants who advise our Council leaders are wondering why we waste money on green spaces? Surely placemaking Interims have earmarked these sites for new signature, iconic, tower blocks?
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What's happened seems even more puzzling viewed with Google Street View.
On the left was the view from Turnpike Lane in July 2012. The railings were still in place. Grass and bushes seemed intact; and the view was a green and pleasant corner.
Someone from the Friends' Group like to explain the plan?
On the right is also Google Street View but in August 2014 with the same corner viewed from Willoughby Road.
It looks like removing the fences and bushes had produced heavy overuse. And not just in the corner triangle of land.
Some Dutch researchers use the term "Elephant paths" (Olifantenpad or Olifantenpaadje). Which pretty much sums up what's happened here.
You can enlarge both these photos by clicking on them. (ESC returns.)
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Permalink Reply by friends of ducketts common on
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We did post the plans for this way back, the link for that has been re posted below and (here) in case anyone missed it.
Also, please note that the FODC meet once a month, anyone can attend, you can also request a copy of the minutes or find them on the web site ... www.duckettscommon.org.uk
Most of the people attending the meetings objected to the moving of the fence, the planting and the potential problems we are now seeing. They also objected to the new planting choice, which will be a mixture of spiky plants and fruit bearing shrubs.
Despite all of that they proceeded without any changes to the original proposal.
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I apologise then for my implication that the Friends of Ducketts Common were complicit in the moving of the fence. This seems to be yet another instance of the Council riding roughshod over the advice / wishes of the community.
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Permalink Reply by aidan on
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The progress reports might shed some light, except that they mysteriously stopped in October
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/environment-and-transport/roads-and-stre...
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Ah, so the invisible elephants in the park have ignored the plan laid out for their movements. Didn't anyone from Parks explain that - based on experience in other unfenced green spaces - this was at least a strong possibility?
The Dutch version of Wikipedia has a link to a book and a website on Elephant Paths. http://www.olifantenpaadjes.nl (I used Google Translate).
U.S. research on this issue shows that heavy use of desire lines even in wilderness areas can lead to soil erosion and impacted ground.
Maybe the plan for Duckett's Common deals with all these issues in the fullness of time.
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