Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Filthy new Green Lanes pavement
I have noticed that since the pavement was redone on Green Lanes a few months ago, the new clear-coloured paving does not seem to have been washed.
Sure, litter gets picked up by the council services, but the clear paving would require proper cleaning with specialist equipment at least once a week, especially around bins and benches (see picture), as the road is starting to look disgusting.
It is my understanding that it was the Greater London Authority that paid for the new pavement, and that Harringay Council would be in charge of its upkeep: why then is the council not doing its job?
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Permalink Reply by ChrisTofer on
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Yes, it would appear that Harringay council is extremely good at taking money from residents and motorists, but completely useless at solving ongoing problems, keeping the area clean, or doing anything for that matter. Makes you wonder what they actually do with all that money...
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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I was out and about in the Borough today and I noticed elsewhere, staining on the new-style paving where the paving appears to be concrete with rows of small dimples. I hope this staining won't be permanent. Has anyone else noticed the appearance of staining on relatively new concrete paving?
Clive Carter
Highgate Councillor
Liberal Democrat
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Oil from waste food will stain almost any paving: the well-worn darker smaller paving slabs (same type of material as was removed from Green Lanes) at a couple of the entrances to Manor House station are similarly, noticeably, stained.
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Do they use this paving in Highgate, Clive?
Phil, I invite you to inspect for yourself the current condition of paving in Highgate, particularly Highgate High Street.
I further invite you to consider my suggestion, that there is no pavement in our Borough with paving that is more cracked!
Clive Carter
Highgate Councillor
Liberal Democrat
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Permalink Reply by Lauren on
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The shopkeepers and sh1te meat outlets need to stop sweeping all the stuff from their floors out onto the pavements, then I'm sure it wouldn't be so bad. This seems to be the "culture" on Green Lanes and I'm sick to bloody death of seeing it and asking them to stop only to be snorted or muttered at or shoe'd away. They seem to think they own the street and can do what they like and the people who live here are at their mercy. It needs to be made absolutely clear that dumping rubbish and sweeping it out into our street is not on and will not be tolerated.
Rant over. For now.
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What I see, local to me, that causes the worst staining is leaking black rubbish sacks parked against the bus shelter for the southbound 'Harringay Green Lanes' bus stop. Haven't made a forensic examination... but it could be from flats above just as easily as shops. Not a lot of loose, sweepings-type rubbish to be seen at that location, at least.
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A lot of this is down to the council's "laissez-faire" attitude to pretty much everything but parking-related offences, since there's money to be made out of those. Anything else, they couldn't care less...
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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We have been having these discussions for so long now about dirt, dumping, rubbish, filth, lazy, bad behaviour etc on Green lanes and the way the new pavements soon looked so awful, and why. Why did all that money get spent, at such inconvenience to us all? The result is substandard and horrid.
The old pavements were dirty but you couldn't see it so much. I wished they'd just left them. We have the old rubbish bins which are disgusting and we have the old attitudes of some locals who just treat the street as an open tip and anything goes. Eat out, throw it out, sweep it out. So many of us are sick of it but nothing gets done about tackling the causes- which is the behaviour of those who make this mess and get away with it every day. Council has no will to tackle the causes and reprimand the constant offenders.
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I'm not sure that even regular washing the pavement will help. The other night my attention was drawn to a patch near the corner of Green Lanes and Burgoyne Road, outside an estate agent.
This stain is large and dark and looks unsightly if not disgusting, but I worry that it is semi-permanent.
This may be a function of the choice of paving, which has a degree of permeability. The new concrete slabs (that in places now look decidedly shabby) may be either too permeable or not permeable enough.
Many of us watched the new paving being laid with enormous care and effort. If the wrong (cheaper?) specification was chosen, then it is a pity.
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Permalink Reply by Cecilia on
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The source of the stains you are talking about can be easily be traced given that the drip lines lead straight back to the nearby doors. Why are backs filled with oozing dark liquids dumped on the street?
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Permalink Reply by Jon C on
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It is truly disgusting that the council employs no-one to actually clean the streets. Sure, the "singing roadsweeper" and his mates do take the "top layer" off, and the Veolia vans are constantly in the bus lanes doing something-or-other. But why no jet-washers? If it's any consolation, let's count our blessings that we don't live around Finsbury Park interchange, where it's obvious that none of the three boroughs that meet there (Haringey, Islington, Hackney) give a damn that there is such an ever-increasing layer of phlegm, vomit, grease and chewing gum on the pavements that it is in serious danger of becoming a new soil layer - particularly on the (Haringey) corner, all along the stretch from the Twelve Pins to the Stroud Green Road shops passing under the bridge.
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