Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
20's Plenty Where we live
I'm sure parents have warranted fears about this, as there a no longer any physical barriers, let's make Green Lanes a safer route for all of us, there has already been four deaths too many in recent years.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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I thought the whole borough is going 20 except on the Red Routes? What's happened to that? We now have 20mph round the Tottnm Gyratory (if I can still call it that, can you gyrate in two directions?) but 30 on all the side roads off it. Bonkers.
Green Lanes as a Red Route will need special by-laws or whatever creates this legislation.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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It is most definitely NOT a red route. That is thanks to the influence of the shopkeepers and the GLSG. Would we want it a red route? Would the number of pedestrian vs. motor vehicle incidents go up or down?
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I remember the consultation on the proposal for a red route - maybe twenty years ago. Was forgotten about after a campaign against it by shopkeepers and the Socialist Workers Party. Strange bedfellows indeed.
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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Activists are activists, shared issues can bring us together.
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Permalink Reply by GillianM on
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Is red route no parking? I think less parked cars would mean faster driving, closer to the kerb,
more overtaking. .... more dangerous for those on the pavement or trying to cross! Like the bit of green lanes next to the park.
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Yes, red routes are major roads on which vehicles are not permitted to stop,
Green Lanes Harringay only has single and double yellow lines. Red routes are controlled by TFL,
yellow lines are controlled the council.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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pamish, Broad Lane is 20 mph, but the High Road and Monument Way are 30 and likely to remain so (as a TfL Red Route) when Green Lanes - and the rest of the borough's roads - goes to 20mph as trailed by the council last year.
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My mistake, should have said Broad Lane. The other 2 sides of the square are meant to be the fast(er) through route, linking central London with Essex and parts beyond. That's why we're not liking the continuing use of Broad Lane by insurgents.
It will be a year next week since your linked proposal was published. Who is in charge? Time for the 1st b'day party. Some adjacent boroughs have been doing 20mph for years.
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*bump* TfL yesterday (12 March '15) put out proposals for making eight sections of their network of 'Red Routes' subject to a 20mph limit. The Evening Standard has mapped them.
According to TfL "Although large sections of the TfL Road Network are main arterial roads, some sections pass through busy town centres, which are more attuned to lower speed limits as they have high pedestrian and cyclist numbers". It has "identified around 50km of its network which could potentially be appropriate for 20mph speed limits".
In Haringey the Red Routes are the A10 (Tottenham High Road/Monument Way/Bruce Grove), and the section of Seven Sisters Road between Manor House and Seven Sisters. Which parts of those would count as "busy town centres" "appropriate for 20mph", I wonder. Mind you, like Green Lanes in Harringay, the High Road in the middle of Tottenham doesn't often see 20mph never mind 30.
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Im sure Ali Ozbek of MedChem Pharmacy will try and influence this with a '40's too slow' campaign
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