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Hi there, 

I am new to London, new to England in fact. I am from New Zealand but my Great Grandparents lived in Tottenham (Sherringham Ave) so I thought I would check out the area. Personally, I thought it could do with a bit of a spruce up and was delighted to see that there are now plans (not sure if totally committed yet?) to heavily invest in the area. 

This got me thinking that it could potentially be a place to buy a house and settle in for a while - housing in the area seems considerably cheaper than other London areas and if this investment comes to fruition then prices may well rise.

I thought I would get the locals view on where they think the best place would be to buy within the area that has the planned investment (Northumberland Park, Tottenham Hale, Seven Sisters, Tottenham Green). Being relatively young and from NZ (where my NZ $ buys peanuts over here) I need something on the cheaper side but I will do a lot of DIY to get the place up to scratch - so the area is really the most important part for me right now. 

Any help would be appreciated so I can concentrate my effort and hopefully find that rough diamond!!  

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I had lunch at El Botellon today - really good four dish lunch for £7.50 with drink included and that included super-fresh calamari and amazing patatas bravas plus soup and carrot.  Best of all though was desert - the most amazing crema catalana which was better than any creme brulee I have ever eaten and just £2.50.  Nice space and  friendly waiter. Could do with a few touches like better-produced menus and nicer coffee cups, but overall very impressed and I will be back. Well worth supporting and even worth a trip if you're not a local.

Hello! Thank you for the wonderful comment about the food at El Botellon! We're still polishing our edges as we're picking up business and we hope to see you back very soon.  BTW we have just introduced a new cocktail menu, you can check it out on our facebook page and twitter @elbotellon7

There are 32000 El Botellons on Facebook, can you add a link to your please?

What a pity that they have added the inappropriately styled awnings that cut across the strong but simple design of the El Botellon shop front. My heart sank sank when I saw this as this restaurant stood out before and has now reverted to type.
The awnings are under sized and are crooked. The bland grey colour does not complement the initial , strong colour scheme and they look flimsy, like they'll blow off at the slightest gust of wind.
Why oh why.....!

Sure, but he didn't ask where would be a good place to live. He asked whether buying a home in Tottenham is a good investment. And I think looking at areas of roughly equivalent price, you'll see a bigger rise in Hither Green than here.

Anyway, your friends probably go out drinking in South London.

The big difference between Hither Green and Tottenham, besides the transport/distance from central London, is the size of the properties. Houses in the streets leading off Tottenham High rd are relatively small, 2 up/2 down homes. Hither Green has larger victorian houses.
I don' t know why people feel the area won't attract new buyers. 2 things will change the dynamic. 1 = the improvement to rail services when the line to Enfield goes to TFL-Overground. 2 = the increase in prices elsewhere beyond the reach of first time buyers. Tottenham remains cheap on average for such a central and well connected place in London. U can get from John Lewis to Tottenham Green in 30 minutes including walking time ;-). Buses run all night long from central London if you like a night out and don't want pay taxi rates. Nos 73, 149, 341 and more.
A real problem is developer-buyers hoping to make a fast buck. They are buying these lovely victorian and edwardian houses and ripping out the original features and putting in cheap plastic parquet and out of place italianate bathrooms and fittings. They then try to fob them off at inflated prices. When they don't attract aspirational buyers or first time buyers looking for fixer-uppers, they end up needing to let them out.
Let's also hope that all the 1/2 bedroom flats that developers will be building in the area, with the full encouragement of our short-sighted Haringey Council, do indeed attract buyers looking for homes for themselves and not speculative local landlords or, for that matter, placement investors from the far east that are happy to keep their properties vacant.

Hi, Ben,

If you want to buy a reasonably cheap home in London, then Tottenham is THE place to avoid. There are other cheap(ish) parts of London which are safer. Try neighbouring Harringay and Wood Green for instance, or parts of East London, like Walthamstow, Leyton or Stratford.

Tottenham is not a neither a nice nor a pleasant place to live... and Haringey Council is to blame for that.

It is nice and pleasant. Otherwise why would we all live here? 

I had a particularly pleasant walk through Lordship rec this lunchtime to buy lots of good quality fruit and veg in the Turkish stores the other side, and the cheapest best houmous ever!

Nice community, great parks, links etc. Wish there were a few more pubs/eateries. But green lanes is a short walk away.

Hi Beewan, 

Thanks for your reply. Is the eateries/pubs shortage that much of a problem? I was up there on Monday and found a few nice places - is there certain areas that are worse/better than others in this respect? I am headed up tomorrow and going to bike around a bit to get more familiar with the area, are there any specific places you think would be worth checking out?

Cheers,

Ben

Hi Ben,

Sorry not to get back to you sooner, i'm not on here often. The shortage of pubs/eateries aren't a big issue at all. I'd just like a bit more choice, i get very bored very easily after going to the same places a few times. I think biking around would be a good idea to get a feel for areas that you like. 

Tottenham's quite a big area, I know South Tottenham near Stamford hill and West Green area, by the parks really well. I liked both areas, but have settled by the parks as i have young children. Both areas are good for transport with overland going to Hackney/Liverpool street and underground going to Soho. 

Go explore the Turkish Supermarkets, have a look at the parks and cafes, try a few coffee shops by sevens sisters or Bruce Grove. Bernie Grants is very recent, not quite got a broad body of plays like Finsbury park theatre but it has potential. This may not be your thing at all but Lordship rec has a dog show and a veg/fruit/cake show this Saturday. Why don't you visit it and see who your neighbours may be. I really like the huge mixture of people in Tottenham, apparently the most ethnically diverse postcodes in the world. 

Beewan 

Ignore Neville, Beewan

I am sure he'd complain if he won £45m on the lottery because the ticket was creased.

He is quick to talk about other places to live, cheaper and nicer, yet still stays here... The taxi for Nevillve has been waiting for him to board for a few yrs now. 

Thanks for your opinion Neville. A lot to think about from these posts but I must say there is a lot of positives views about the area - hopefully they are not overly biased but what do you base your views on? Why is the council to blame and for what reasons is it not pleasant or nice? 

Thanks to the others for your posts so far!!

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