Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Council dimisses views of Blackboy Lane residents
Next week the corporate committee of Haringey Council will make a decision on the Blackboy Lane issue.
According to the report prepared for the committee, the majority of Blackboy Lane residents would prefer no change, However, the report states that this option has been dismissed.
It also says that the option to consider another name is dismissed - not because it's the right thing to do but simply because that wasn't what they said last time!
Below are the results of the second consultation along with the report's somewhat tortuous justification for dismissing the wishes of Blackboy Lane residents.
Of course, those of you who have been following this issue will have little faith in these consultation results. You will have leaned that the Council may have sought to swing the result the way it wanted by approaching select groups through the local Labour Party apparatus and asking them to reply to the consultation to support the name change.
So, there you go, no surprises here: that's how politics is done in Haringey these days.
For the record the author of this post has no objection to street renaming where the existing name clearly causes offence and where widespread support for the change can be proved.
Full text of the Blackboy Lane item in the Council report available here.
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Permalink Reply by Mr Wodjacallim on
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The cost of the name change is astonishing, £180k. I would have thought a sign change would cost £2k and the same again to update Haringey’s address records.
So where is the remaining £176k going?
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Permalink Reply by Adrian Hackney on
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The information is all there in the thingumajig attached to the wotsit.
The great beauty of it is , it will actually cost nothing. The italics show no extra budgetary doodahs are needed. Every penny was set aside long ago. The costs are only notional. A miracle of local authority accounting
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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There's at least one repeated piece of dubious "information" in that table.
"To be met within existing budgets" presumably doesn't mean that existing budgets are as fat as a Christmas turkey. So let's please assume, after decades of cuts; "efficiency" savings; redundancies; and lean-and-mean restructurings, that finding £186,000 for this list will cause some real cuts to services and jobs elsewhere.
Or are they relying on some magical new income stream? A recent discovery of commercially exploitable quantities of lithium buried under the Ally Pally boating lake?
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Permalink Reply by BBL on
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Black Boy Lane road is in need of repair. As a result of the uneven road surfaces I fell last March and hurt myself quite badly, broken wrist, gashed face,etc
When I complained to Councillors about the state of the road in March 2020, I was told there was no money in the budget to fix the road
Suddenly money can be found for pet projects and condition of the road worsens. I am in despair.
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"Replacing x4 street name plates, assume double costs for 'formerly Black Boy Lane'..."
Let me get this right: they're going to perpetuate the [insert adjective] current name on the shiny new name plates that will be good for the odd century or so?
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And easy to remove or accidentally damage.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/27137114503/'Twas New Year's Eve in Wood Green Town
We saw a street sign hangin' down.
And so I took a little pic
Asked our Council: 'fix it quick'Simple to do, Simple to say,
Simply send to Haringey
You'd think it takes a coupla days
Not half a year like Haringey.
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Tune:The Night We Went to Rothsay-O
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Apology: it's Rothesay.
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This is PERVERSE....
This budget will take resources away from current responsibilities - "existing budgets" are already under constant and continuous tension - in a neighbourhodd where everyone suffers from poor provision of public services and a rotten public realm to the point where there is a common perception from outsiders that "Tottenham is a shi**ole". Just how does this "advance equality and diversity objectives".
Yet our illustrious ELECTED (they are there for us!) politicians are willing to push this through on a dodgy non- "appropriateness of the existing name...".
I ma sorry but THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF ACHIEVING A GOOD OUTCOME!
PERVERSE. WARPED thinking.
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The council leaders do not work for us, many do not care about us, the political system has collapsed MOST people vote for a party, most do not even know who the person they vote for is, so you get a bunch of fools., some councillors are more interested in their own ego, ignore correct process etc.. They are a disgrace to Marx, and any political party, and the silent majority of councillors, are too timid to oppose the so called leaders as it may come across as disloyalty to their party ( which to some is must more important than their disloyalty to the residents)..
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There are lies, dammed lies and statistics.
The comparison of the number of responses in Black Boy Lane compared to the number of registered addresses is seriously flawed. Exactly the same can be said about the number of responses from the entire St Ann's ward compared to the number of registered addresses.
In addition Anna made the point of the age and language distribution on the street. There are a large number of people that may have been unable to respond for internet, technical ability or language reasons.
Considering that the non-respondents can be considered as don't care, where is the mandate for support of this proposal?
In addition the consultation made no reference to the forecast costs. If the question had been put "Would you like the Council to Spend over £180,000 pounds of your council tax money and additional council man hours on the renaming of Black Boy Lane?", there may have been quite a different reaction.
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