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Wood burning stoves
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Permalink Reply by Amit on
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Great topic!
Putting aside the politics of it, I'm curious as to why filters can't be installed in chimneys to trap particulate matter - is there something I'm missing?
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Good. They should be banned.
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Permalink Reply by EMC2 on
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Can't believe I'm writing this but this Mail article from back in January is worth a read.
"A study in Tasmania, where new wood-burning stoves are allowed only if they are designed to emit less than 2.5g of PM2.5s per kg of wood burned, found that in real life they emit nearly four times that — with an average of 9.4g per kg. At that level, a single wood stove burning three tonnes of wood a year — the average — will emit as much PM2.5 pollution as 2,000 petrol cars."
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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And unlike diesel car drivers, there are not enough of them to fight a potential ban.
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Here's an interesting piece of context-setting today: http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/pm25.html
The gist:
The Mayor of London has relatively few powers, and curtailing the use of wood-burning stoves isn't one of them. Wood-burning isn't even the real problem anyway, not compared to vehicles.
Basically Sadiq can do no more than tinker with the PM2.5 problem without concerted efforts from the UK government and the EU. But it's only become a pressing problem because he's adopted the 10µg/m³ WHO aspiration rather than the 25µg/m³ legal limit.
Without external assistance London's basically at the mercy of whatever PM2.5 drifts in from outside. Those of us living beside main roads may be getting it worse than the rest of the capital, but not hugely worse, because background levels are more significant.
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Permalink Reply by Christopher Fowler on
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Looks like a hostile reaction from the wood-burning stove supporters. No doubt back in the fifties the same people would have been against any restrictions on burning coal. Don't worry folks, let's all choke to death on particulates.
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Quite!
I'm alright, Jack; in my big house, with my central heating and my wood burning stove.
Screw the kids. What do they need healthy lungs for anyway?
Get me five bags of coal and some unseasoned pine, forthwith.
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one of the issues here, of course, is that people who have bought stoves have been told that they were compliant with air quality issues ie, they burned fuel at high temperature,so they are now being told they were misinformed.
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It’s the same with diesel car owners.
At one point, smoking tobacco was seen as healthy too.
But times change and we need to move on.
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For the last 4 weeks (and the weather has not been cold) the Family has been subject to the most awful acrid smoke on Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings.
I have discovered that one of our neighbours - about 6 doors away - has installed and is using a Wood Burner.
My wife and I can just about bear it but it is causing havoc with our young Daughter Kate's asthma.
I have spoken to the neighbour who said that it was installed and tested professionally at great expense!!
The problem is that this and I suspect many such Wood Burners have flues sticking out of ground floor extensions - our neighbours being a extension to their kitchen.
And, like a lot of properties in Crouch End, we live in a row of Terraced Houses facing another close row of Terraced houses - with another row in effect forming a U shape.
So in effect we have our own 'inversion' - trapping the low level emission of smoke - which is particularly noticeable in the first floor bedrooms. That is just like Chamonix in the Alps which now has some worst pollution levels in the world - with Wood Burning stoves being identified as a major contributor
It is ironic that the Green movement has strongly supported Wood Burners - championed by such organisations as the Muswell Hill Sustainability Group. The latter provide courses as to how to limit emissions but none of this can solve the problem of the laws of physics.
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