I've just seen two heavily laden Jewsons lorries driving down Burgoyne Road at 750am.
I understood that these lorries weren't meant to come down the Ladder streets, due to the weight they carry, and the impact on the judder bars and houses (does anyone else's house shake when they go past?)
I recall a forum about this a while ago, but if anyone has any ideas about who to complain directly to in the Council, please let me know.
Thanks!
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Hi
We have the sam issue on Warham Road.
Whilst I agree that contacting the companies concerned may be successful I think that the Local Athority has a responsibility, for several reasons. The ladder roads are here because the houses are here. This seems an obvius point, however I suspect that the land was bought privately in the 1800's by property developers, who then invited Local Authority at the time to "adopt" the roads.There may well have been conditions concerning the purpose and use of the roads?
The Local Athority has put traffic calming measures in the roads and it is likely that they did not conduct any impact or risk assessment before doing so. It is the traffic going over the humps which causes or house to shake and to flex. Our House Flexes about its strongest point, ( between the two front rooms) This is similar to placing a plastic ruler across one's knee and pushing down on bothe ends. this has cause tiles to come loose and lintels to be damaged.
I beleive this to be the direct responsibility of the Local Athority in placing humos in the road. other traffic calming measures are available. getting the Local athorithy to accept responsibility is another matter,
I would be in favour of closing off one end of each road on the ladder?
Niall
Or putting those narrow steel road bollards (like outside Woodlands Park) to both physically restrict the size of vehicle that can get down the road, and slow them down considerably.
Difficulties? Well, we have Yashar Halim at the bottom of the road, and these guys take a lot of deliveries, the school opposite takes deliveries- these would both be affected, does it have implications for emergency vehicles (not that I have ever seen an ambulance or fire engine use our road as an access route- thought it does not mean they will not at some point).
As I mentinod in a previous thread I suspect the lack of enthusiasm to enforce these regulations is the fact it costs a kings ransom for the council to put out the enforcements teams, and they cannot recover the full enforcement cost from the people they nick. Until we get to a point where (1) the disincentive is so large by way of a prohibitive fine that can see proceeds directly put back into the council's enforement teams and (2) enforcements teams are actually resourced so as to enforce everything they have to enforce, things won't change other than bitty piece meal actions!
Does anyone know if the London Lorry Scheme applies? http://www.tfl.gov.uk/microsites/freight/london_lorry_control_schem...
Some of the Jewsons lorries look as if they would meet the weight criteria, and I have heard them going down the ladder as early as 5am.
Therese - do you have the document explaining that the houses were not affected by speed bumps? I think that's the document I have been told about and have been trying to get a copy of. Would be interesting to see if the surveyor is still around and what he'd make of the houses 20 years later!
No problem - this issue isn't going to go away quickly, so I can wait!
For some people power, I suggest that we all post on the Jewsons Facebook Page (I have just done so) and also on their trade forum. http://forum.jewson.co.uk/
I have found that firms often respond quickly when you get onto their social media!
Good idea!
Hope you get a dialogue going with them. Just posted a couple of tweets for you:
Locals wondering if social media might persuade @Jewson to listen to their concerns about @Jewsonlorries using Cavendish Road.
— Harringayonline (@harringayonline) June 22, 2012
Locals also planning to use @Jewson Facebook page to get heard on @Jewson lorries on Cavendish Road hgyol.in/NZBJFU
— Harringayonline (@harringayonline) June 22, 2012
Thanks Hugh - it's not just Cavendish, but Burgoyne too, which has the same throughput, but in the other direction. And I endorse what has been said about some drivers being better than others - there is one guy in particular who deserves a thumbs up as I always see him slowing down when going over bumps, and there is very little shaking as a result. If only the rest of them would follow his lead...
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