Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Homes Built Over Railway Lines - the future for Harringay?
A report by engineering consulting firm WSP suggests that modern engineering techniques could be used to construct apartment blocks directly above rail, Overground and Underground lines in London. (Report attached)
The images below show what the landscape at Victoria Station before and after such a scheme.
The 12-story tower blocks would go nicely with Haringey's tower block dreamchild just about to go up by the Railway line at Hornsey Station.
Great technology for some sites, but I hope not all. Let's hope we have a different planning regime in place by the time this technology comes to the fore.
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Out of thin air report s.pdf, 3.4 MB
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Look at the problems the Overland line has faced due to bridges sitting over the line. Imagine those access issues having to be dealt with when a tower block/estate sits over the line.
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Permalink Reply by Martin (Woodside) on
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I can't imagine main lines being shut down for months while flats are built over them. Supermarket car-parks have been suggested.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Nor can I, but look at what they built over Victoria Station whilst keeping it operational.
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Permalink Reply by Nick G-T on
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It's not built though right? It's a plan, or are you referring to a different development?
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Most of what we see over the lines in the lower picture above isn't built, no. That's just a visualisation.
Those of us who remember the station in the 1980s, however, will remember the removal of the ‘Brighton’ side roof and the construction of Victoria Plaza (a multi-storey office and shop complex) above the Brighton side lines. You can see it in the top picture.
A similar develpment took place over the lines at Charing Cross Station. To support the new buildings, a huge concrete platform was constructed in place of the old station roof. All thee while trains kept running.
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By way of a footnote, I just came across this interesting picture of the Victoria Station frontage in 1890 as well as an interesting potted history.
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Yes I remember too, our offices were on Wilton Rd overlooking the 'South Eastern' side of the station (where the State Visits used to arrive for the carriage ride to Buckingham Palace). Somewhat similar overbuildings have also happened at the country end of Liverpool St, over the concourse at Cannon St, and over the country end of part of the platforms at Fenchuch St.
The Victoria visualisation does seem to have trees planted over the tracks, Garden Bridge Mk II?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Can you imagine the densities achievable actually OVER the black hole of the railway station itself thanks to The London Plan? Do you see what this means for the value of TfL’s land?
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Very similar proposals at Euston for decking over the lines between Hampstead Road and Eversholt Street as part of HS2.
I seem to remember a proposal for the same thing at Gare du Nord Station in Paris but there’s a general prohibition of developments above 8 storeys so that may have knocked it on the head.
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I didn't know about that. It looks rather like a modern version of what they did to Victoria in the 80s (see my comment above).
With regards to Gare du Nord, it seems that talk now is of "anchor(ing) the placement of the station within its neighbourhood".
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Permalink Reply by Zena Brabazon on
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There are current plans to build on top of Tottenham Hale station contributing to the intensification of an area which will be a sea of tower blocks. There is also a live proposal to build up to 33 storeys in a site on Hale Village. I don't think the people in the adjacent blocks knew that was coming!
Emine and I, along with members of our Housing and Regeneration Scrutiny Panel, went to a presentation about the Mayor's Housing Strategy (currently out for consultation till December). We were told the new London Plan should be coming out by the end of the year. That will be a very important document setting the planning framework for new developments. Depending on the changes and requirements, this will have very big implications for Haringey and the current plans for development and regeneration.
Zena Brabazon
Cllr, Hrringay Ward
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Well hopefully they get rid of this rule relating allowed densities to proximity to transport hubs. People in London are trimmer than the rest of the country because of our ten minutes each way walk to the station and lack of car ownership. Look at all the pies we can eat too!
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