Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Council dimisses views of Blackboy Lane residents
Next week the corporate committee of Haringey Council will make a decision on the Blackboy Lane issue.
According to the report prepared for the committee, the majority of Blackboy Lane residents would prefer no change, However, the report states that this option has been dismissed.
It also says that the option to consider another name is dismissed - not because it's the right thing to do but simply because that wasn't what they said last time!
Below are the results of the second consultation along with the report's somewhat tortuous justification for dismissing the wishes of Blackboy Lane residents.
Of course, those of you who have been following this issue will have little faith in these consultation results. You will have leaned that the Council may have sought to swing the result the way it wanted by approaching select groups through the local Labour Party apparatus and asking them to reply to the consultation to support the name change.
So, there you go, no surprises here: that's how politics is done in Haringey these days.
For the record the author of this post has no objection to street renaming where the existing name clearly causes offence and where widespread support for the change can be proved.
Full text of the Blackboy Lane item in the Council report available here.
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Permalink Reply by JJ B on
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The problem is that the article strikes some powerful notes that sound all too familiar in so many Haringey cases involving (usually less well off, BAME) local residents, local (usually small, BAME) businesses against Haringey council, which brings in Mr Big Developer or allows influence from Mr Big Football Club to overpower the little people, resulting in the exact opposite of what a Labour Council should be promoting. Thye also love to cloak it all as "regeneration" or improvement when it benefits very few of the locals who should be the prime candidates for self empowering assistance.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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J J - I'm happy to give you some more of the back story - at least as far as I know it - which is far from complete.
Message me or we can talk on the phone. It's not exactly little people -v- corporate giants.
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JJ - P.S. Do please read the public Report on Liverpool's finances and compare the main issues raised there with recent Haringey issues.
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Some food for thought for Mrs Ejiofor is here.
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Permalink Reply by James R Grinter on
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Interesting to note that, when residents in Camden’s former Cecil Rhodes House were recently given the opportunity to rename it they went for a new name that was *not* another person’s.
Cecil Rhodes House renamed by residents (Camden.gov.uk)
(This is how you do a consultation!)
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Thanks for that James. I worked as a housing officer at the Camden Town housing office in the eighties when it was first mooted that a name change for Cecil Rhodes House might be appropriate. The tenants (around 80 separate flats as I recall so a fairly substantial undertaking) were asked, the majority who responded said no, so the idea was dropped. It sounds like this has been handled well and they’ve ended up with something the people living there both want and like.
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Their outcome 'Park View ...' would be appropriate for Black Boy Lane, since most of it overlooks Chestnuts Park.
Except there's Park View Road in Tottenham Hale.... Dammit.
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Only 95-121 overlook the park. 1-94 overlook each other
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Well that's brightened up a grey Saturday morning!
Michael, thank you so much for linking to such an excellent performance of 'If it Wasn't for the 'Ouses In Between'.
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Thanks, I again enjoyed Tracy Coleman's version of 'ouses. Having watched YouTube videos about the 'istory of cockney, she seemed to be taking great care with her dropped aitches and pronunciation of the 'Rs'.
But I'm still fond of the crackly Gus Elen version. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XchS7hdddU
Even if Wikipedia and some of those same YouTube videos might suggest he overdid the Cockney costermonger accent for his music hall act.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Elen
P.S. The irony of the dangers of houses in between is is increased given the wall and forest of tower blocks - with more going up - around Tottenham Hale Stations. I feel especially sad for people who paid high prices for views from towers which are now blocked by other towers, And presumably whose solcitors didn't do careful enough searches about other blocks planned? Or maybe they ignored the solicitor and listened more closely to the sales pitch?
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