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John. I have raised this with John Forde, he works hard to keep out public spaces, but there are limits. One of the worst offenders is the guy at the bottom of Umfrevrille. I reckon he just takes the micky, you have barely space for one person to get past at times. John, I know, has been active in trying to get this guy to reduce how far out into the footpath he pushes his goods out. Basically, traders can rent space on the footpath to do this, but only to a certain distance. John's response with this individual is to tell him he will withhold his licence unless he complies. I think it had some success, but I went past the other day and his stuff was just as far out into the street it seemed. It is not actually clear how far they can go out.
Costa is one that gets my goat, not because of the barrier and chairs, but the bloody sign that always pushes another foot out into the footpath. It sounds petty but it should be not go any further than the barrier they have.
When they had the Green Lanes regeneration I made point about what I call 'cannoning', ie the pinch points in our street that makes it impossible to pass efficiently or (sometimes) safely. This is not totally down to the traders. I like the street feel of Harringay, with folks in the street, traders with their wares out, but the paths are not big enough or designed for their current use. I made a number of proposals during the regeneration about cleaning up our streets including removing or relocating a large amount of the street furniture to places that made more sense- and in some cases getting rid of it entirely (such as the blinking pee stinking telephone boxes that serve absolutely no utility what so ever unless you are a crack smoker (especially that one by the post office that is always covered in adverts and which affords massive anonymity- and yes, I did see a guy smoking crack in there recently)).
As lot of this street furniture compounds this problem as it adds to the narrowing/cannoning effect. The images below are from my submission a couple of years ago, and much of the wares many folks have now push even further out into the street than this.
Here is an idea... Links here to the current traffic study, and something that could potentially benefit everyone, including the traders:
Is not like I have thought about this at all, can you tell.
As a starter. Does anyone know how I can find out how many times the phone boxes on GL have actually been sued in the past 5 years to make a call. I will go find out if you have any suggestions...
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No, I get that Michael, I believe there are even statutory obligations (on BT) for them to be there. So, I thought lets find out what social purpose they serve, and I am happy to chase this down!
I am just not sure where I would start, so any advice welcome.
Its just that we do not need 6-7 of them! Really, when was the last time any of you made a phone call from a box? In fact, anyone know without checking what the minimum call charge is these days?
Aha, I forgot we have a resident expert goat keeper phone expert in our midst! Thanks Dick, I will see what I can find there.
Here is another example I came back from holiday to find at the bottom of Pemberton. Devran have put a heap of tables on the footpath. I like it, but look at what is stuck in the middle of the footpath. The based of the car parking ticket machine that has not been removed- why it is so far in the footpath in the first place is beyond me.
I didn't manage to take a picture (too busy pokemon hunting) but coming home on the bus today I spotted a fruit and veg shop just north of Costa with their usual wooden stand thingy, crates in front of that, then a second line of crates in front of those AND then more crates stacked up on the road side of the pavement next to a lamp post.
Tighter again if someone was sitting in the chair!
Very informative! Thanks Justin
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