Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Rubbish....
describes a recurring problem on our street and also HC's response in dealing with it.
The weekend before last someone from one of the houses on our street - or possibly (probably) the landlord or someone employed by them - emptied a load of old furniture onto the pavement outside their house. This consisted of a mattress, part of a bed base, a broken chest of drawers and bin bags.
I reported this to HC via "My Account" on the Tuesday (20th June).
Nothing had happened by the Thursday so I contacted the council by phone and was advised it would be dealt with that day.
The next day I came home from work and found that all the rubbish was still there; by now some of it had tumbled down further with the result that at least half the pavement was blocked. So I picked up every item and threw them all back into the front garden.
I then checked the My Account service and to my amazement found that the problem had been "solved" on 20 June (the day I reported it). Of course, this was untrue.
This weekend a mattress was put outside another house in our street. By the next day it had fallen over so that the entire pavement was taken up. I thought of contacting the council but thought "what's the point?" and so picked it up instead and heaved it back into the front garden.
The rubbish I referred to at the beginning is still where I left it in the front garden of the property even though it is blocking two or three of the bins in the garden. What can I do about this? It makes the street look disgusting as does the mattress in the front garden of the other property. If I report it they may get it taken away but why is HC not proactive about these matters? Why are they not following up the dumping of rubbish that in the end I had to sort myself? And why do the majority of local residents not give a **** apart from me??
Query / rant over!
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Like these from a few weeks ago? Piled high and left for days.
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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Yes! I think we need a catchy name for the group and some method of geographically ring fencing our findings for maximum impact - any takers for a) names b) coverage representatives. I can look into creating a Facebook group with write access for many individuals.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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No need for a Facebook group, Koktas - just use a thread on HOL. Haringey are very aware of HoL and monitor it regularly. It also features very strongly in Google results. Every post on HoL also goes to our Facebook page. In terms of 'findabilty' and visibility to Haringey I think HOL will be a better bet for you.
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The point is to make this visible to the broader public and thus to apply more effective pressure to the council. Facebook also has the added benefit of geotagging and all the social media frills that make content go ever so far. I also strongly suspect that there are more Facebook users living in Harringay than there are HOL users. It has to make the news to make an impact, being on HOL only won't give a big or painful enough a prod to the council
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In terms of scope of membership, I'm sure you're right about how small HoL is compared to Facebook. No competition there. It would be interesting however to know what the respective impact of both platforms has been on Haringey Council. HoL's records isn't bad.
However, as Michael has said below, no harm in having as many routes as possible.
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I was going to say something like "Harringay, or Ladder Flotsam and Jetsam", but if you look at the definition, It might need to be "Ladder Jetsam"
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Permalink Reply by PaulG on
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Not just the Ladder Justin. In fact I think that we are slightly at cross purposes as the dumping of mattresses, furniture and other items on the pavement seems an especially east Harringay problem; certainly I rarely witness this phenomenon on Ladder roads where your problem seems to be more with uncollected Veolia bags.
I agree with Hugh about using HoL and not Facebook not least because I am not "on" the latter. I am not sure however whether one single page would do it or whether we need more than one.
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I have no problem with how wide it is Paulie, certainly not trying to limit it- you did not say originally where you were from so apologies.
I am sure Liz would disagree about mattresses being not being a Ladder issue, in fact, the other day there was a bed base and multiple bags of builders rubbish laying around at the Wightman end of the middle Ladder area...
You see more of the Veolia complaints on HoL because they are supposed to be taking the stuff away, I guess folks do not winge much about other stuff and just deal with it- though Lauren has often posted about the HMO opposite her dumping. We often get all sorts dumped on the New River bridge. What will be interesting is if we can collect evidence in a slightly more systematic way we will see exactly what is being dumped!
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I agree Justin - all good points. Apologies to you and Liz about not being aware of the width of the "mattress" problem! I suppose for me the mattresses are more annoying and depressing than the uncollected pink bags because if I saw them I would just think "rubbish awaiting collection" whereas when I see yet more dumped mattresses I think "absentee landlords who never visit the property who have had their guys go in, clear the stuff from an outgoing tenant's room and dump it in the front garden / street" which makes me far, far angrier...
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If you set up a tag and use that for any relevant discussion, we can include all discussions, past present and future.
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Permalink Reply by AlexConx on
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Harringay is not just the "ladder". Wood Green is part of Harringay also...
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You're right that Harringay isn't just the Ladder, but also Harringay isn't Haringey.
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