Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Campaign against Wightman Road closure
Spotted in a local shop window..
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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My weekdays, and that of most working parents, are already a masterpiece in time management. I simply didn't manage it during the Wightman Road closure and that isn't acceptable either.
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Permalink Reply by Pat on
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I haven't seen these convoys of large commercial vehicles, on my cycle journeys along Wightman, which must be happening if they are passing every few seconds.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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You missed the commas Pat. He didn't say all of them were large commercial..
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Permalink Reply by JoeW on
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There are hundreds of "large commercial vehicles" on Wightman every day Pat, here's the data for one weekday (compared with St Anns, which is a double-decker bus route):
I think these are the vehicle classes (but got this from a US site so may be some differences):
So it looks like not only are there more cars on Wightman than St Anns, but also more HGVs.
Also worth noting that St Anns carriageway is much wider than Wightman, does not have pavement parking (which reduces the pavement width on Wightman to below the 2.1m recommended in Manual for Streets), and house frontages generally wider than on Wightman (so your living room and bedroom windows are much closer to the passing traffic on WIghtman). So why is Wightman - which by any criterion is least able to carry the volume of traffic - expected to carry the most? (Actually carrying more than Turnpike Lane and several other A-roads).
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But St Anne's is for traffic going East-West or vice Vera's so traffic will be dependent on need, and from the traffic numbers there seems to be more need for traffic going along the North-South axis. If I want to go to Hornsey, why would I use St Annes. Similarly, if my intention is to go to Stamford Hill, why would I use Green Lanes/Wightman rather than St Anne's. As a matter of interest what are the traffic numbers on Green Lanes parade? Why are people who live on Green Lanes expected to have their quality of life worsened?
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The point of comparing with St Anns wasn't to suggest an alternative route - the point is about the capacity of a road to carry a given amount of traffic.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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It only looks like there's a lot of north south traffic because of the railway.
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Probably so because of the points of crossing. The railway limits these significantly.
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Permalink Reply by Nanz on
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We are working parents who must get their children ready in the morning, up to nursery and then get on public transport to try and get to work on time. Time managing that situation would be a nightmare.
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Permalink Reply by Julia Richards-Davies on
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This whole plan smacks of utter NIMBYism.
We live in London. Traffic through London is a massive problem for us all. We would all ideally like our roads to be traffic free. Closing one main through route doesn't reduce traffic or lower pollution, it simply moves the problem elsewhere. It causes traffic jams which produce way more emissions than moving traffic, endangers pedestrians, clogs up junctions, etc for everyone else. With the Wood Green redevelopment bringing a potential additional 7000 homes this is absolute lunacy. I for one would happily sign a petition against the closure.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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But surely Julia, the Wood Green development makes dealing with through traffic a priority before the cars of another 7000 households start to rev up!
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There is no traffic provision in the development plan. No new roads, no new parking, apart from at the new Aldi, which will bring in more traffic.
I live in Wood Green and the Wightman Road closure was an absolute nightmare last year. I'm sure it was lovely for everyone down there as we took your traffic load for you. Maybe we should also close Alexandra road and Hornsey Park Road. Lov
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