Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Please Help Us Raise £700 to Fund a Leaflet Printrun
For those of you who are active on HoL, you'll be very much aware of Haringey Council's transport study. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity for all Harringay's residents to have their say on how best to reduce our excessive traffic burden. To that end, we want to ensure that all residents are FULLY informed on the options available.
Unlike Haringey Council, we do not have a juggernaut PR system pushing our message, or the money to pay for it. So we are asking for your help. We want to raise money to fund a print run of leaflets for Wightman and all the Ladder roads, plus other events to raise awareness.
If you'd like to help us raise funds for the second phase of our campaign; to create a safer, healthier, happier Harringay for everyone, then please click the link below which will take you to our Just Giving page.
Thank you.
Yes, I would like to help raise £700 to fund leaflets If you'd like more information, or get involved, please check out our Living Wightman Blog or Facebook Page.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Really important information but the point for me is that the only way to fairly/evenly distribute through traffic on the ladder is to ban it entirely. If this is what we agree we want (fairly distributed traffic) then this is what has to happen.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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The point for me is that fairly/evenly distributing the traffic isn't my primary concern in life. My primary concern is being able to drop my son to school (on foot) travel by bus to work, do a full 8 hour day and then do the reverse journey in time to pick him up from after school club before 6pm.
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Good: If we lose on the filtering option and my street (that gets more ladder traffic than any other by a country mile) gets its direction reversed, I take solace in knowing you'll be happy with the extra ~300 vehicles a day you host on your street as a result. I felt badly about that but if your view is representative that is very nice to know.
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I'm absolutely fine with that. That's why I'm voting for precisely that option. I don't see that the ladeer roads "blighted" with traffic. Since the bridge reopened I would say this is probably the quietest London Street I've every lived on. I chastised my son one day last week for not looking before he crossed our road at the passage entrance. "But there are no cars, Mummy. There are never any cars." I checked up at down the full 300m length of road. Not a car in sight. We crossed four further ladder roads. I saw a total of 3 whole cars in 5 roads probably totaling 1500m I length. And this is at 8.30am; supposedly the morning rush hour.
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Permalink Reply by Nick on
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Indeed - the average across all the rungs is less than one 'vehicle movement' every 60 seconds. It's difficult to understand why some ladder residents are happy to have traffic shifted from their already quiet roads onto other, busier roads in the area.
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There are 86,400 seconds a day. 2500 vehicles on my road per day. Circa 200 residences (some have been made to flats).
That's one vehicle every 35 seconds for a road that has maybe 750 people living on it.
We want the traffic made so aggravating that people are disincentivised. We want the vehicles to be on roads that developed to carry traffic from point A to point B, our residential roads were not designed for that.
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Although if you look at Wightman that becomes a vehicle every 5 seconds (or every 4 seconds if you knock out the night-time). I'd say that the ladder roads are more of a byproduct of filtering Wightman rather than the driver.
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Knavel, you just keep missing the point so spectacularly. You "want the traffic made so aggravating that people are disincentivised" but for every car user on Green Lanes there are 50 bus users also being aggravated and held up.
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Knavel: Are you seriously suggesting that Green Lanes, Park, Salisbury, St Ann's and other Harringay roads aren't residential? GL alone is lined with flats above almost all the shops, as well as houses and Mountview Court just in the section from West Green Road to the Salisbury. Of course roads are designed to go from A to B - including from Wightman to GL or vice versa, for instance!
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Don, roads were not built for cars (I just keep saying the same things to you over and over don't I?).
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Permalink Reply by DavidJ on
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@ Nick - I live on a quiet rung road. I am in favour of radical solution like the Wightman filtering because I think that there is far too much traffic in Harringay - and the current state of Wightman Rd and some of the ladder rungs is not acceptable. I don't think that we should be standing by allowing this to continue. Its a disgrace.
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