Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Why local traders shouldn't worry about removing on-street parking
This is an article about Toronto, but there's nothing to suggest that the same wouldn't apply in London, and more precisely, Green Lanes.
Some snippets: "Almost half of the local business owners estimated that more than 25% of their customers arrived by car. The actual number? Just 4%. By far the biggest way to get to the street was walking or cycling, with 72% of visitors arriving that way. Cyclists and pedestrians were also better customers, spending more time in the area, and spending more money per month than the folks who engaged in drive-by-shopping."
"Removing cars from downtown streets actually increases trade by attracting pedestrians and cyclists, and a new study of Queen Street West in Toronto's Parkdale neighborhood has the numbers to prove it."
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Results like this have been replicated in study after study, including studies in London. Not only do most shopper NOT arrive by car at shopping destinations, non-car drivers spend more per head over a month than car drivers do as they are more likely to make multiple visits. Also, something like 30% of the cars you see parked in shopping areas are actually owned by those working at retailers, so again not spending
http://www.thisisnode.com/2016/12/19/conundrum-car-park/
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The main users of parking on Green Lanes are the traders themselves.
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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That's exactly it. It has nothing to do with trade.
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See my comment on the Traffic Scrutiny Meeting thread here.
The traders made two submissions asking for parking to be preserved, not so that shoppers could park there, but so that their shops and businesses could be supplied as there is no rear access. I think there used to be rear access but it's been built upon....
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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on
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Another study from a few years back in New York showing the same thing http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/dot-economic-benefits-of-...
Given that it wasn't that long ago that we had the lib dems at the local elections proposing 30 minutes of free parking as a policy (obviously with no backup and unable to answer any questions about actual economic benefits) I can't see any changes being made soon.
Haringey is a very car-centric borough compared to most of those surrounding it. I've no idea why that is the case but, in Harringay at least, being heavily influenced by the local traders (who were pushing to have the bus lane on Green Lanes converted to car parking full time until TFL stepped in) does not help.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Harding on
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I'm not bothered personally. More loading bays would make much more sense to me. It's a nightmare for delivery drivers doing drops at HLS.
I know Yasar and maybe some of the restaurants are very keen to maintain street parking as their customers often drive from the other side of London to shop/eat there.
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Permalink Reply by Rob B on
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Not true. I have a number of friends who live in south London / Surrey borders and they tell me it takes the same time driving or public transport on average to come and visit.
Perhaps that might not be true for those living within a 5 minute walk of Brixton or Stockwell tube... but most of s london is nowhere near a tube so involves train - tube - train/bus to get to Harringay.
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