A letter just dropped through y door asking for feedback. Here is mine:
"I hope the council considers the permanent closure of Wightman Road. Gradually commuters and long-distance drivers are realising they need to either use alternative main roads, or switch to public transport or cycling. The study shows that residents overwhelmingly do not own a car (61%), and prefer public transport, walking or cycling for their commute (82%)."
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I agree V&M. A senior local politician said to me over a drink not so long ago that if we can't agree a solution amongst ourselves, one that suits none of us very well is more likely to be imposed from above. The more we can all converse constructively, collaborate and agree a way forward the better.
I'd like to see the output of a 'big conversation' be a major influence on decision-making alongside the advice given by the consultants and council officers. Discussions between residents on HoL and elsewhere may help to inform that, but it will most likely be the old-fashioned representative groups that need to get their heads together to come up with something more tangible that can be put forward to the Council.
"one that suits none of us very well is more likely to be imposed from above"
Do you know what that might be Hugh? I have thought of many solutions, including several which are frankly ludicrous. But they are all better than the previous status quo.
No, not yet, but let's say for example they removed all current traffic management controls currently in place. (There's no suggestion that this might happen; I mention it for the sake of illustration). If it were to happen, there would be no winners, apart from those who want to use our neighbourhood as a traffic corridor.
It seems like most people don't have a problem with the idea of improving the Green Lanes situation, they just don't believe that the traders will allow the changes required. It must be worth re-examining measures which were rejected previously now there's some data on how traffic is behaving since the closure. I understand someone was measuring air quality, is there any publicly available information on this or other aspects? It sounds like a lot of the refusal of change was down to fear of the unknown. Now it's a bit more known, perhaps there's a better chance of reasonable compromise.
Esat, rather than focussing on the many problems, do you have any suggestions for improvements? It sounds a lot like you want it to all just go back to how it was. Which is fine, but not super constructive in a conversation about trying to find a mid point.
Thanks Peter, that sounds like good logic re: parking spaces. Perhaps people would appreciate some more pay and display bays around the ladder and Wightman- I find it a real pain in the bum keeping a stock of visitors permits.
Re: outer London congestion charge, one for the longer term pile perhaps especially given the Mayor's plans for an additional emissions based charge.
An outer London congestion charge is a matter for the Mayor and the GLA. In the meantime, I've been floating the idea of hyperlocal road pricing on other threads. As I understand it, this would be in control of our Council, would be cheap or cost free for the Council to administer and set-up. I see no other practical way of controlling traffic flow on Wightman (which of course doesn't mean there isn't one - but it's certainly yet to be identified).
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