Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey Council Cabinet decision a little bit of help for beleaguered tobacco industry
FOLLOWING the Haringey Council scrutiny review of events in Finsbury Park, the Council Cabinet decided late last year to approve another tobacco sales facility for customers at the next Wireless Concert.
This followed the recommendations of the council's watch-dog, the Scrutiny Committee. The Committee successfully resisted the thrust of representations of the lobby group ASH and from the Borough's Director of Public Health.
The Cabinet's unanimous decision should again provide the kind of outlet and high-profile event that is so valued by the cigarette and rolling-tobacco industry.
The industry has been under pressure of late and Haringey-London—working together with their partner Live Nation—continue to do their bit to relieve it and to enhance customers' experience.
Last year's Tobacco Pavilion in Finsbury Park provided a range of products for the mainly youthful audience that numbered between 40,000 to 50,000, some of whom won't yet be using the industry's fare.
2016 will be third year running that our Local Government has given their seal of approval. What will be especially welcomed by the industry is that Wireless for Summer 2016 may be bigger and longer, with enriched commercial appeal.
The map above shows the spread of existing customers in the Borough, with the healthiest consumer-concentrations in the east.
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Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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YOU'RE absolutely right Antoinette and the Council Cabinet has not only taken your message to heart, they are doing what they can to help promote cigarette sales, at least in the big public park they own and control.
This summer's Wireless in Finsbury Park promises to be the biggest and longest yet, so you can't accuse the Cabinet of not trying with such a big, high profile event.
In the interests of fairness, I should point out that some parts of the Council that haven't yet got this message are trying—together with the NHS—to help people give up the habit.
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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Smoking isn't a crime, & if you enjoy it that isn't either, but what it does to your body is,
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MATTHEW, the Council Cabinet's decision should help to normalise tobacco use, or to re-normalise it.
They may be taking a (tobacco) leaf from the well-known 2001 report by Philip Morris Inc. produced on behalf of the Government of the Czech Republic.
That report listed many benefits of smoking (from a public purse point of view).
(Broadly, the report argued that it's high taxation, coupled with the bonus of early mortality, leads directly to big savings in pensions and health care and a net benefit. It's only fair to point out that the report wasn't met with universal acclaim).
However, it can be seen that our Cabinet have their fingers on the pulse of cutting-edge public finance.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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But I don't see any call to ban alcohol at such events...
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Antoinette, I think we're agreeing again! I don't see any call to ban either alcohol or tobacco at such events (I haven't, anyway) …
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I don't see any call to ban xxxx at these events
Antoinette and Clive, please assist this puzzled pedant. Would this 'invisible or even inaudible call' be a real literal call, or a more figurative call as in 'reason', 'demand', 'justification' etc ?
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Eddie, as far as I'm aware no one has called for a ban on smoking in Finsbury Park. Certainly not me. It would be unreasonable if not ridiculous. The Council however, is landlord and freeholder and is able to control what sales take place on the land they currently own and control.
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Well that might be appropriate if they weren't corralling 50,000 people for 12 hours into a contained area from which you cannot leave and then be re-admitted... you should be able to buy cigarettes... and food.. and alcohol... and go to the toilet and get cash from a cash machine ..All standard facilities made available because you aren't able to come and go as you please from the festival site
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... you should be able to buy cigarettes...
I'm sure that Haringey Council's Cabinet agrees with you Antoinette and they've made sure this will obtain at the enlarged Wireless 2016.
All standard facilities
Yes, I've already acknowledged this represents either normalising or re-normalising. The tobacco industry should be well satisfied with the arrangements of Haringey Council Cabinet.
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I think you make the case for the Cabinet's position on tobacco sales in Finsbury Park as well as it can be made. I'm sure they'll be successful.
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I think you might agree that the tobacco industry is under real threat from many quarters, not least from central government. The Haringey Council Cabinet is doing it's level best to help the industry, as far as it can, on its own estate (Finsbury Park).
Due to the effects of government legislation, tobacco companies are increasingly being obliged to sell their products into less regulated markets, such as Africa. Our Cabinet is trying to alleviate this pressure and keep more business at home.
I know it's not much, but I think we should all recognise this. Every little helps.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I think that there is a difference between being able to buy cigarettes on site and smoking promotion. There were some pictures somewhere on here (I think from last years' Wireless) and that is what the pavilion seems to set out to do. I also think that selling alcohol on site should be reconsidered. I wonder what proportion of the problems that the medical staff, staff security and Police dealt with in the festival site last year were alcohol related?
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