Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Homophobia in the neighbourhood
John Toner of the Indy reports on the high levels of abuse that one couple receive on a daily basis:
A gay couple have told of their constant struggle with homophobia in Haringey.
Teacher Siobhan Wesley and her partner, charity worker Patricia Macleod, say they are subjected to threatening sexual and homophobic abuse in public on an almost daily basis.
The pair live separately in the Green Lanes area of Haringey but spend a significant amount of time together as a couple in public.
This has exposed them to an escalating level of threatening sexual behaviour from people, predominantly men, and violent threats and abuse purely because they appear together in public as a gay couple.
Ms Wesley, 29, said: “All the time this happens, we’re just walking along the street and we get people yelling sexual insults at us, men shouting what they’d like us to do to them and people just screaming ‘lezzers’ at us.”
Recently the couple were saying goodbye at the end of Siobhan’s street when a man exposed himself to them and began to sexually insult them for no apparent reason.
I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that it is upsetting to read of this homophobic behaviour in the neighbourhood.
What should be done, as Ms Wesley suggests, to make local people aware that "queer people exist in this area, that it’s completely normal and that the comments they make are offensive and against the law."
UPDATED Sat 11th April
From GayHarrin website
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But don't follow the misogyny bit-
Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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They push the idea that a woman is a half formed, unfulfilled being until she''s married - to a man of course.
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Permalink Reply by Lauren on
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It's about saving women from themselves by training them to be more like men want them to be. Implying that there's something wrong with them, that they can't truly be happy unless they are behaving themselves. The nasty names (pimp lifestyle - a woman would never use that to describe herself) and the notion that all women wish for is to be married to a man that the poor wretched woman endured unhappy relationships with 4 guys who jilted her at the alter but then she went to church and was CURED and found true happiness and fulfilled her purpose with one who, judging by the photo she can't even bear to kiss! Sorry but if you were jilted at the alter FOUR TIMES would marriage not be the last thing on your mind? It's patronising and insulting not to mention downright lies in order to make women feel they should act in a certain way.
I did however find it slightly sad and hilarious at the same time.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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UCKG is not too fond of lesbians either. Can they help lesbians jilted at the altar, d you think?
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You don't have to look hard it's there! This is my point that it is so ingrained into the mind of men as being normal. Long way to go...
The whole leaflet was frankly, horrible but these two paragraphs were relevant to this topic so the only ones I posted.
I wouldn't mind so much if they were true testimonials written by women but they were clearly lies written by a man with posed photographs. These women do not exist, other than in the mind of a man at the UCKG. In order to humiliate women.
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Don't want to hijack the thread, but I do want to boast about one of my life's great achievements, to win a case against UCKG for false advertising. The famous Loose Arteries story. And the result.
That completely fictional story used different models for different audiences, too.
You may applaud.
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Permalink Reply by Ian Craine on
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Maybe it's time somebody did hijack this thread. I've been waiting for someone to explain exactly what UCKG is. Nobody did so I Googled it. We're talking about some Pentecostalist outfit called the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God are we? Are they of much relevance to anything? Do we really expect a bunch like that to be gay-friendly? I said way back on this thread that religion is your biggest enemy; you're never going to convert people like them.
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They are the huge church in what used to be the Rainbow theatre, at the junction of Seven Sisters Road and Isledon Road, plus many branches elsewhere. They are notorious for exploiting poor people by tithing - taking 10% of their income, in return for 'prayer chains'. This branch failed to save Victoria Climbie when her tormentors brought her to the church four days before she died - instead of reporting them to the police, they offered to exorcise the dying child. Exorcisms are Fridays - 'strong prayer' night. The Brazilian owners of the church are in jail for fraud, last I heard. Our only redress is to try to keep them legal, using whatever UK laws can be flung at them - including Advertising Standards. And yes one of their papers did once run the story of how they had cured AIDS in a supporter, they had to withdraw that.
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“I was a nightmare as a husband! I instilled fear in my wife because I believed she was my property. Whenever she would do something I didn’t like, I would beat her as if I was fighting a man. I was possessive. Every hour of her day had to be accounted for, or else… Things got particularly out of hand one night that I put a gun to her head because I didn’t like the way she responded to me. She left me and I later came to the UCKG HelpCentre, where I got help with my anger problems. Through the messages, prayers and spiritual advice, I have been a changed man for over 12 years and we are so happy — thank God for the UCKG HelpCentre.” – Ignatious Hango, Finsbury Park
Err. I'm clearly missing something... this man should be in prison, not at church!
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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If the story is true, you're probably right.
But why do you believe his testimony, but not that of the two women ?
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I never said I believed it!!! It's probably not true but still another example of them displaying the opinion that women should put up with any old crap from men because that's what they are for. Never mind that this chap seems to think it's ok to attempt to kill his wife because his Lord has forgiven him and she has welcomed him back with open arms. It probably is just another of their lies (all their examples cite the most bizarrely extreme circumstances and behaviours) in order to brainwash.
Anyway. We are diverting. But it's still stuff that is going that is really dangerous to the welfare of women in our community. The other poster is right in saying we won't be able to stop them but let's make people aware eh? How many people realise that the chuggers collecting for kids charities at the tube in the friendly dinosaur suits are really this lot?
Maybe it deserves it's own thread?
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