Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The filthiest stretch of pavement in the borough?
The 50m or so of Green Lanes between the railway bridge and Stanhope Gardens must be a strong contender. The amount of unbagged and illegally bagged rubbish it attracts is unbelievable. These pics show the haul this morning at 0845, with broken glass and filthy tissue strewn liberally about. The pavements themselves are disgustingly dirty at the dumpsites because they're never washed. Yes, I've reported it through the app, to my councillor and directly on the Veolia website.
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Permalink Reply by Helen D on
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I feel your pain and would like to offer you consolation as I walk through a stretch of pavement that brings equal despair. At the end of Glenwood Road past the Albany Close bins, it only ever looks like this:
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If you're taking nominations, may I put forward Willoughby Road, N8? The front gardens of many of the homes between Raleigh Road and Turnpike Lane are a sight to behold.
Yes, I've reported it too.
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Permalink Reply by rosyrose on
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That was my first recourse Phil. He has put in a member inquiry and expects a report from officers by 28th July.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Nobody will be watching us. Why don't we do it on the pavement?
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None of these piles of dumped rubbish are actually in Green Lanes. That's purely an address they give to the local Labour Party.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Billy, that's so descriptive I actually felt a bit queasy reading it!
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Thanks for starting this conversation rosyrose. I have certainly noticed a marked increase in the amount of dumping and general filth.
Old habits die hard it seems and it seems that some folk in the borough are having serious withdrawal symptoms from not leaving small and not so small gifts to propitiate the Rubbish Lords of Haringey. Last night seems to have been some kind of Festival of Dumping.
I reported 4 fly tips on four streets on a short walk from Pemberton to Hewitt (the last one being a stinking black bag infested with flies) with of course the inevitable purple bags of doom stacked up on Pemberton and lurking on Allison. As Alan Stanton once observed, I is for Imitation. If the waste management team's practice is to leave bags of rubbish over several days, what is to stop others from adding to the pile as the truck will be coming by anyway.
Also messages about how to dispose of rubbish, what can be recycled and what to do about large items are just not getting through. At this time of year, we'll start to see lots of movement as students finish exams and move out of short-term accommodation and new short term tenants start to look around here for somewhere to live. Meanwhile temperatures rise and bad things go off much quicker.
The months from July to October need a really big push on educating people about waste - I know John McMullan has said it before but how about marshalling some of those young and not so young Labour/Lib Dem doorsteppers and their very detailed information about who lives where to help knock on doors and talk about this vital issue (I'd think about voting for someone who bothered to be pro-active in this way).
There also needs to be some serious scrutiny of what exactly Veolia are up to. Times and standards for cleaning up fly tipping, sweeping streets and keeping up with rubbish collection are slipping back to even below the abysmal levels of Accord/Enterprise who did manage to pick up most fly tips within 24 hours (eventually). I suspect corners are being cut and staff are being overstretched to keep profit margins up. New and used councillors over to you. Now is the time to start showing us you can make a difference.
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I for Imitation. Thanks for the memory, Liz.
As far as I recall, none of my Labour "cabinet" colleagues ever took the slightest notice of anything I said or wrote about dumping and ways we could try to tackle it. They often seemed to operate in a fairytale fantasy land where they couldn't take the essential first step in solving any problem: admitting to it!
For me this cognitive dissonance - telling ourselves lies which we choose to believe - was typified by Claire Kober's Election Manifesto claim that: "Our streets are among the cleanest in London".
But much worse, my former colleagues also seemed to dismiss your more anthropological, grounded approach. (The "ethnography of dumping" I think you called it.) Which is why I had fresh hopes when Cllr Stuart McNamara got the Claireion call to become "Cabinet" Rubbish Tsar. Separately, Zena and I advised him that top of his list should be a conversation with you - to pick your brains.
By the way, "new and used councillors" - a great phrase. Although some now fall into the categories of pre-owned, antique; bric-a-brac; hand-me-down; reconstituted; and electorally-recovered.
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This seems to have sparked a rather dismal kind of competition, in which none of us is a winner. I've followed your patient efforts over a long period Liz and can only admire your stamina and (gritted teeth I imagine) optimism. As you say, if there is a rubbish dump on the pavement, the thoughtless and witless are going to add to it. Like TBD I feel worn down and powerless in the face of the twin juggernauts of antisocial behaviour and indifference/helplessness on the part of those who could be doing something about it. God knows, they don't lack constructive and imaginative suggestions, so some other element is missing.
I had a reply from the council to my report, saying that the dumped rubbish would be removed within 24 hours. As I passed this morning, 22 hours later, it was still gracing the pavement, though the broken glass had been swept up as promised. As this particular dump includes three bags of builders concrete, perhaps we will learn that this is new street furniture...I await the outcome of the member's enquiry.
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Permalink Reply by Monica B on
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I reported this disgraceful bit of dumping (sofa and concrete post torn from the ground! ) in Avondale Rd,and two days later it's still there.
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Tune: The Biggest Aspidistra in the World
We soon won't see the top of it, if gets too bloomin' high
When it's the biggest pile of dumping in our roads.It'll soon be high as Highgate and may even reach the sky
When we've the tallest pile of dumping in our roads.The artists come for miles around, I don't know why they do.
They smile and gaze and take their snaps and block each other's view
So I've started to sell tickets and to line 'em in a queue
To see the newest largest Banksy in the worldThe bloomin' Council said that it's our job to take it down.
It spoils Claire Kober's view as on Wood Green she looks around.
So we sold it to an art dealer for fifty million pounds
And now we are the talk of London Town!______________________
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