Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
wheelie bin disaster
HI everyone I been having a massive problem with my neighbour regarding the wheelie bins,
we move to this house couple of years ago and our top neighbour was already living there, we realise that they are not great fan of recycling and since the local authority / Veolia made this decision of collection once every 15 days it's been just a nightmare.
I will explain, my neighbour can fill both bins in one week so as a result they're left open over a week and with the hot days the small it's just horrendous, now there is maggots all over the bins, to help I did tried to explain them but they English is not good so I think they didn't get it at all. I was thinking with the time they will get there but sadly I was wrong it's even worst this days.
I did try contact Veolia but looks like they are not responsible for that moreover a spoke with the guys on the collection and ask if is possible to send a new ones or at least disinfect the bins, but the show no interest. one day I very nice gentleman rang my bell with the leaflet explain all the procedures for recycling and I was excited about it, but my neighbour did not turn up so I left then on his door, he just ignored everything.
now the situation is getting worst and worst as is maggots everywhere as well as strong smell and I can't even open a window on this hot days, on my everyday life I have to hold my breath to get home . It's a very stressful situation as I don't want to create problems with neighbours but in the other hand I don't want to let him doing the same over and over. I just don't know where should I call for help any suggestions will be much appreciate.
thank you for reading this . 
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Hi Kust,
Sounds intolerable-You may now need to enlist the help of your local councillors. Let us know how you get on.
They also do surgeries
2nd and 4th Saturday of each month 11am - 1pm
Turnpike Lane Citizens Advice Bureau, 14a Willoughby Road, N8
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Permalink Reply by Cllr Emina Ibrahim on
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Hi Kust - Please do email me with your details
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Permalink Reply by 1bs0009fwj8dj on
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I'll contact the council about this Kust - can you email me with your details and address? I'll do what I can to help find a solution.
thanks
Cllr James Ryan
james.ryan@haringey.gov.uk
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Permalink Reply by tulips on
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Poor you! As a practical solution in the short term - find out what nationality your neighbours are - then maybe someone on here who speaks the same language, might be able to help explain how the system works to your neighbours. Also Veolia should be able to supply a leaflet in their language.
Also, as soon as the bins have been emptied each week, clean out and disinfect the wheelie bins each week.
Plus in the short term, maybe another neighbour would let you put some of your own rubbish in their bin if they have spare capacity so that your bin does not overflow and you can close your own wheelie bins properly.
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Maybe you could speak to their landlord about the situation?
I don't know if you have a good relationship with other people who live in the same building as them, but they should be able to tell you their name and you should give them a call. The landlord is ultimately responsible for the property and and the tenants behaviour while in that property, if they're causing a nuisance you should let them know regardless of weather the problem gets rectified or not.
Out of interest is this on Burgoyne Road?
Good luck, it sounds miserable :(
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That sounds horrendous. Does the council still have an environmental health department, or did they hand that over to Robocop to manage too??
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Thank you so much for your replies.
I understand that I can take some help from my local MP's, I wasn't aware of it .
I used to live at the ladder but 2 years ago I moved to Bruce Grove but I'm still following this great forum,
anyway I'm going to seek for help with my local MP's thank you so much for all of your support .
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Bruce Grove? Then I'd strongly recommend that you contact Cllr Stuart McNamara one of the three Bruce Grove councillors. He's also the "cabinet" councillor with responsibility for the Environment - including bins.
Stuart's contact details: email: stuart.mcnamara@haringey.gov.uk mobile: 07854 544696.
Let us know how you get on. The problem you have is not unusual where people share their bin space.
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Permalink Reply by Ruben on
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When I lived in Camden we had 2 collections a week. Council tax was not double.
Funny enough I then tought it was 3rd world-ish (no offense meant to developing countries). In Barcelona I was used to nightly collections (except for Sundays). I think I'd only seen a mouse once in 25 years. Here, apart from maggots all year you get mice, rats, foxes... I always thought that a nightly collection would pretty much eliminate opportunities for scavengers.
Then again I guess that when in Rome...
On a positive note, not having to separate all recyclable makes recycling bearable. If they had me separate recyclables in 4 or 5 I'd just give up like your neighbour and put it all in the black bin. When full, I'd drive in front of the council and dump it there.
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Ruben sorry I'm not clear, do you mean that the mixed recycling we have in Haringey makes recycling' bearable'?
The majority of packaging now goes into the green bin which is collected *weekly*, food (which I believe should be separate since this is one of thing things that makes bins smell) is taken *weekly* and any garden waste can be put in a handy sack and placed *weekly* outside the door to be taken away. We don't have a fortnightly collection of waste, we have a fortnightly collection of landfill/burner destined waste - in truth for many households without nappy age children, all that goes in the black bin is plastic film from tops of things, and certain non-recyclable materials like polystyrene (and cat litter for some).
I appreciate that there are barriers for some people to recycle like lack of space to have two bins (we hang a carrier bag on a radiator for recycling - the carrier bag gets recycled too) and shared kitchens make food waste recycling difficult if not everyone buys into it.
Put simply, the 'everything in one bin' approach isn't sustainable and the EU has set targets for recycling which have to be reached. Veolia's 'one size fits all - force people to recycle' approach isn't working and they need to look at where barriers exist on a case by case basis but Haringey's one bin for all recycling is actually not especially onerous and preferring to tolerate smells/maggots/ mess to examining how small changes of behaviour (like putting all easy recycling - cans, bottles, tins, glass into a carrier bag and putting in a green bin every day) isn't excusable.
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Exactly what you say. Right now I have 3 bins in my kitchen, plus the ones outside. That's bearable in my case.
On a 3-member family I fill the black bin in 2 weeks (as you say mostly of nappies, cat litter and whatever I can't figure out - things like yogurt containers and lids, kitchen towel dirty of food). The rest practically in its entirety goes to the green one (including the plastic film, I class that as plastic bags and other plastic).
If I am asked to start separating potentially: tin, plastic, cartons, paper/cardboard, glass (in some countries by colour)... how many bins do they expect me to have in my kitchen?
So, they are effectively making my decision very easy.
It's all very well and good that the EU makes a directive to recycle, but unless there can be a practical solution for the average person, it won't work.
One day Veolia kindly put something in my letterbox saying that I'd thrown something in the wrong bin and they could fine me for this. Given that the note did not specify what item was at fault and what bin it had ended in, I put it in the green one (paper).
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