Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Dear councillors ... please organise for a CLEAN Green Lanes!!
Green Lanes does not have to look like this. The so-called re-development hasn't even finished & it's already filthy. Why?
Why isn't Veoila down to do this at least weekly?; (from this post)
So Dearest councillors can you pretty please find out for us what is going to be done to rectify this quite unnecessary situation ... and let us all know here? Ta
Green Lanes - Live well for now!
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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Sadly this stretch of Green Lanes has a large number of inhabitants and visitors who couldn't give a toss.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Seriously, this can't be right. There must be some mistake. In the Koberfesto - as endorsed by the Labour Group on Thursday 3 April - is a section on OUR ACHIEVEMENTS which explains that Haringey streets are now among the cleanest in London and resident satisfaction is at its highest ever level. So there.
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They must be talking about the ones in Crouch End and Muswell Hill. You know, the area's where they are not planning to build loads of housing in.... Zzzzzzzx
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This the moment when the local Tories could show us how that Big Society thingumyjig works?
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Permalink Reply by Lydia R on
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This is one example of how our Council gives US the sack, instead of the other way round.
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But isn't us cleaning up our own streets part of what the big society means?
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Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on
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Yes and no, actually. I pay the CT, so expect something in return -- e.g. street cleaners etc. That said, when I see litter in my road, like I did this morning, I pick it up and recycle it (if I can). I wish more people would get their hands dirty...
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Yes, I know what you mean. Sadly a lot of folks are happy to walk past rubbish in the street. I know Alan Stanton has previously commented that the problem with the council offering services is that it makes the rest of us think that we no longer have any responsibility for the service the council is ostensibly providing, we just shrug our shoulders and step around the cardboard in the street muttering and not pick the den thing up and deal with it.
On the bright side. I asked a local street cleaner chap outside the schools on Pemberton what was happening about the bags of rubbish left there overnight that had been torn into by the foxes and why they were not taken away the previous day. Sadly it was his first day so he could not tell me, but he dutifully cleaned up the mess and it was taken later that day. Better than that, the lad had a separate bag for the recyclables he picked up on his travels- the first time I have seen this, and something that I have wished street clearness would do given how much aluminium they must have to pick up!!!
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Why not?
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Phil, there are lots of logical ways councils can try to stem the tide of bags, fly-tipping, litter and many other things disfiguring our streets. To their credit many of the staff in Haringey and in Veolia have tried out different approaches and some have succeeded at least partly. Several councillors have also worked hard on this issue.
Obviously just before the borough elections is a really bad time for sensible adult discussions about anything at all. The usual inter-party playground spats are giving way to candidates delivering leaflets and posting online with ever more ridiculous or inane claims, promises, and insults for the opposition.
So asking sensible questions about facts - like 'what's the budget in Borough A compared to Borough B' - are drowned out by candidates speaking ever more loudly through their self-important arses. Pétomane Politics
I'd suggest, if you and other people really want to explore this issue with election candidates, that you are especially nice to an unsung local expert. And ask her to give you a quiet confidential briefing in the pub. In other words, see if Liz Ixer is prepared to draw on her ethnography of rubbish, and suggest some sharp questions for candidates if and when they ring your doorbell.
A score sheet would be helpful on the different questions.
N.B. Please don't pass on possible answers to the political parties. There's been more than enough cheating and deception around Green Lanes.
As you'll know (but some HoL member may not) we're about to go into the pre-election phase known as Purdah. Locally this means that council staff are told they must avoid doing anything which could affect the election.
I think of it as Pudding, when candidates become speak-the-Party-Line-bots. So if anyone does get to examine candidates on the topic of What-Is-To-Be-Done-About-Mucky-Streets, alleys, parks and rivers, examiners should add points for answers with a few glimmers of independent thought.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor - release imminent)
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Permalink Reply by Seema Chandwani on
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NO!
I will happily volunteer when I get my council tax back which is meant to pay for a "Chain Gang" of cleaners called "Veoila".
They get paid millions of our money, they are not Monks giving up their spare time and are struggling!!
#RantOver
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Permalink Reply by Michele on
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which part of St Ann's? - both sides are much the same, particularly at the weekend, but also the flats on the corners of side streets do not have refuse storage so there are usually plies of bags and loose rubbish. When consultation on the improvements first started I mentioned the need for refuge storage and the guy doing the consultation said this had been incorporated into other schemes and should be possible, but this seams to have gone by the board. Also visitors dump there take away packaging in the road in Kimberley Gardens before they drive off. Would be great to be as tidy as Crouch End.
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