Does the Guardian know..?

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Permalink Reply by Domshaw on March 25, 2014 at 14:55

Gor blimey. This is why we can't have nice things.  I only wanted to point out that it seemed a tad dishonest. If it was meant as gentle ribbing then fine and dandy and it certainly doesn't personally traumatise or offend me. I just thought it crept through my door purporting to be something else, but i guess the first headline would have put paid to that. I am going to have to remember not to post anything more controversial than 'hoover for sale' in future. I am happy for you all to go and lie down in a darkened room now as the sledging is getting a bit out of proportion as per. I don't want to be the one to suppress your argy bargy though, so will leave it to the sagacious Hugh to send everyone outside to play...

Forums or Fora, (you decide) are not real life and we're all a bit more fiery at the keyboard than we are in the pub. My perspective has been restored by a pressing need to get back to renovating the spare room. No bedroom tax rejoinders please...

Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on March 25, 2014 at 16:24

Domshaw- do not stop posting what ever you do.

Just remember if you do, to light the touch paper and stand well back when you do!!!

Permalink Reply by maggie on March 25, 2014 at 21:30

@David Allen, sorry it won't link.  

re the NHS. You accuse me of 'sledging', I have no idea whatever that is. In 2011 a peer reviewed study of health care systems in 17 countries was compared    http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2011/08/07...  The UK NHS was considered among the most efficient, the American system among the least efficient. In addition it saved more lives, reducing the number of adult deaths a million of the population, performing better than comparable European countries. Despite being considered among the most efficient health care system in the world the Coalition Government decided to privatise the NHS. The reason for this policy is not to increase efficiency of the NHS, nor was it to improve patient care, as it was already deemed extremely efficient, the aim of this Tory policy was to fragment the NHS and open it up to the market. "The NHS is Safe In Our Hands", remember that? Since the government has been in power waiting times for GPs have increased, waiting times for operations have increased, there has been chaos in A&E and in the NHS 111 system. Our health has not improved under the Tories.

Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on March 26, 2014 at 10:58

Have you seen or heard what Labour, where they control it, has done to the NHS Wales? They have cut the budget in real terms, whilst services remain terrible. Don't take my word, after all I am a Conservative, but that of senior Welsh Labour MP, Ann Clwyd.

Permalink Reply by maggie on March 25, 2014 at 21:57

@ David Allen
re scraping the EMA. There will always be anecdotes to counter properly gathered evidence however the Institute for Fiscal studies published data in 2005 and 2008 to show that the EMA improved staying on rates for over 16s and improved the educational outcomes for students from poorer backgrounds. I think the £30 invested in these benefits was worth it; rather that than the awful rates of youth unemployment with all of the problems that go with it. The director of the National Institute of Economic and Social research stated " EMA delivered significant economic and social benefits" and was valuable not only to poorer students "but to the economy as a whole." But when did this government listen to the experts?

Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on March 26, 2014 at 20:06

It's interesting, isn't it, that no one person has commented on the content of the publication - I wonder why? That really does puzzle me. All these "I hate Tories" 'contributors' can do is attack the name and font because it happens to be shared with another publication, 'their' publication. *The* Guardian has no monopoly or copyright on the name or font. That's why they can't do anything. And there's another important question: do they really think Guardian readers are stupid enough to think they're the same thing? Come on! Hello? Honestly. Then again...

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