Harringay online

Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

 

Today on Green Lanes at the corner of Warham Road via Twitter.

UPDATE

Slideshow of all Francisco de Pajero's (@elarteesbasura) Harringay work below (allow a few seconds to load). See this comment and the one below it for more information on the artist:

 

Tags for Forum Posts: art is trash, street art

Views: 5037

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Yaay - a message from the artist this morning via Twitter:

I've tried Google translate and am not at all sure it's getting it quite right. Any Spanish speakers out there?

I paint where I live and I do it as I live, with my paintaing of war... ?? Something like that 

Y saludos a Francisco! Muchas gracias por tus pinturas, estan muy bien, me gustan mucho

Aaaaaah. Trash art trashed on Turnpike Lane:

If I have understood your comments, Hugh & Ruth, there are two things going on. First it seems that we have a talented artist displaying his skill and playful inventiveness for our enjoyment. Plus, there's an implicit critique. Perhaps of our wastefulness? Or lack of respect for our shared public spaces? 

So why not smile and enjoy and stop worrying? To me, the extra cans suggest why. Because any sort of dumping can be "read" as legitimating and validating more dumping.

This includes people leaving stuff on the pavement next to a purple Veolia bag waiting for collection; or at a spot where there's a timed bag collection; or by a litter bin.

Li++er Haringey

So will other less talented people imitate Francisco's bird's-eye?

Oscar suggests they might. "Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life"

Smile and enjoy and stop worrying.

Exactly....   

Careful Alan, you'll have an 'art attack

Neat. And suggests more puns. We 'art Harringay?

Alan. I often find myself in the "Art with a silent 'f' camp" as there is so much of modern art that is impenetrable to me if I am honest. That said, if the objective was to highlight the amount of rubbish on our streets, and to spark some debate it has succeeded.

I would also point out that in this example (in your image above) the reason there is possibly waste around the bin is because the bin is crammed to overflowing.

Don't get me wrong, Justin. I can smile or even laugh out loud at a clever comment about trash; or the occasional humour of dumping - deliberate or not.

Extreme dog-training?

Sad Toy Story #1

I've no idea whether or not Francisco aims to highlight the rubbish on our streets. If he does, then great. But will anything change? And I'm looking for change in the behaviour of people who dump. Not simply for Veolia to behave like parents who rush to pick up a baby's toys.

I'm also thinking about possible unintended consequences. People do copy behaviour. And they are not always as talented as Banksy and Francisco. There's a strong argument for the "Broken Window Theory", which suggests that graffiti, dumping, broken windows etc operate as "signals" that a public space is uncared for, unattended and possibly unsafe. Discouraging people from using that space. Which in turn can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But since nobody agrees with my comments, let me make one final point and then promise not to be the bad fairy at your streetartfest, any more.

It seems to me that it's crucial to engage young people and children if we want cleaner streets, alleys, parks, and playgrounds. And children especially, learn from adults. So if the adults seem to think it's okay to litter, dump, and daub on walls . . .

I am not sure not everyone disagrees with your comments Alan. As with anything there is a bit to both sides. Some folks will be binary and say no no this is art and it should not be supressed, some will have a lot of sympathy with your comments.

The litter/rubbish problem is one of both structure (bins being overflowing- Finsbury after a hot weekend as an example) and cultural (folks are belligerent, lazy or from the other side- unwilling to challenge poor behaviour). Now, I have been know to shout across the road the whilst stood in my doorway when some slob drops litter on my street meters from a bin (last week, and he picked it up- much to the shock of the guy I was talking to at the time). But equally I see why people will not challenge bad behaviour- I chased a guy out of my front a few weeks ago at 8.30pm after taking a pee on my bush (from on my property, not the street) and nearly ended up in a brawl. How can you change that mind set?

When I was a kid in Germany the bins in the park would say 'danke schon' when you put litter in them. Needless to say the parks were immaculate. This problem also needs some innovative thinking and leadership- which it strikes me as sorely lacking. Do we need a Litter Tsar in the council to take some ownership of the issue???

RSS

Advertising

© 2024   Created by Hugh.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service