Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Are Haringey Council paying bonuses to Senior Managers to make cuts?
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/114135/response/281202/attach...
Your thoughts on this FOI response which states 87 Senior Managers recieved bonuses (or performance related pay) in a borough that has food banks for some in its population who cant afford food, that has had riots and has the highest unemployment in London.
Bonus well deserved?
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Permalink Reply by Seema Chandwani on
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Willy, you heart breaker!! Deep down you love me really!! One day I'll make u mine, especially as i have insomina & you seem to be a good cure ;) loool x
Send my wishes to Maggie for me :) x
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Seema have you forgotten so soon your declarations to another party, it seems such a short while ago? It's a fickle world we live in, isn't it?!
Probably time for some cold facts and evidence.
For those that missed it first time round, here is the list on HoL of the local council's top 100 salaries. I obtained this through FoI request, but this information is likely to be out of date, it being about 18 months old. Is it reasonable to expect that these salaries have gone up and/or subject to extra payments, whatever title they go by? All of these salaries will attach to big pension liabilities, of course.
Of course many local council employees expect and feel entitled that their wages or salaries should go up year after year ... regardless of anything else.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Chief Technology Officer SM4 £80,000
They could get double or even triple that a few miles down the road if they were any good. Very kind hearted and generous of them to stay there doing that job for below market rates.
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LOOOOL The guy down the road getting paid triple is the one the council is ALSO contracting a £4m contract to, civica? northgate? great companies with a lot of public sector contracts overseen no doubt by a contracts manager with a flashy title like Chief Technology Officer
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I was going to make a similar point about the titles. If there is an area of employment that has more pompous, self-important, self-regarding titles than local authorities, I have yet to hear of it.
It does not necessarily follow that because someone has a grandiose title, they are equal to it. There is also an assumption that everyone that local authorities employ is brilliant, intelligent and diligent. It's not necessarily so. John's escape clause is, "if they were any good".
The title inflation is across the board: some of us are old enough to remember the suitably modest "Town Clerk" - now its a Chief Executive, which suggests less a servant of the public and more of personal power in the manner of a managing director. But for me, the Director of Place and Sustainability takes the biscuit for self-parody.
I've no doubt that capable people do exist in local councils and I have come across some, even in this local authority.
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I havent forgotten the "declaration" to the LABOUR PARTY its public knowledge Im a party member, Ive never hidden that! But my loyality towards my community comes before party loyality when both are in conflict. As said many times Im a member of a political party not a cult! Sorry if you thought you were about to reveal something special by making that statement!
With regards to your other point - interesting, thanks!
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I didn't have political parties in mind at all, Seema. Nor celebratory parties, nor wall or lines. For was it not this very year you declared your devotion to this party?
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Victor Meldrew, you're confusing me! I can only assume as a Lib Dem you mean Street Parties? ;) x
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Permalink Reply by Andreas Koumi on
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John McMullen: What is the point in teaching them "media" when the market is so saturated that it's only middle class kids who can afford to work for free who get to do it?
John, if you really want an answer to this rather barbed question, I suggest you study our website - and our young people's creative work - very carefully. And then, if it's still not clear, you take me up on my offer.
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I'm sorry the question seemed so barbed, I was very annoyed at the time that (a) I was unable to hire a decent trainee programmer and (b) nobody seemed to be training them or making it cool.
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Bonuses may not now be paid for making cuts in a parallel but more publicised area.
It now seems that the payments problems of the RBS Group may have been caused at least in part by the outsourcing of a software update to relatively poorly paid programmers ... in India. Bankers would probably rather not have us know the kind of detail, if true, disclosed in this Register article:
RBS collapse details revealed: Arrow points to defective part
A Telegraph article has RBS denying that the glitch has anything to do with India or outsourcing
But cost cutting by the bank may have led to this extraordinary glitch. Presumably the bonuses paid to managers are related to either profit increases, cost decreases, or both. More than one newspaper has today called for the bonus paid to the CEO to be cut.
It seems that aligning bonuses with cost cutting may not necessarily be a good idea (is it ever?). Great for the manager bankers in the short term; maybe not so great for users of banking services.
When is the government going to begin to get tough with this reckless, irresponsible industry? When will they start taking responsibility for the banks they own on our behalf? If some banks or bankers don't want to stay in the UK without being paid a ransom, why not call their bluff and let them go?
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