Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
"Salisbury Pub to be converted to local restaurant" - just imagine
IMAGINE - I love Gokyuzu, but I also love The Salisbury
- as things stand our pubs are more threatened than our
restauants
Not so long ago the idea of the Queen's Head becoming a Turkish furniture store would have seemed laughable. I guess we're not laughing now and we might now imagine any number of possible futures for any number of local buildings.
Are there any left that we feel are critical to the local community? If push came to shove what buildings or land would you fight to protect in Harringay? What would be on your list?
With the new Localism Act we can at least forearm ourselves and give the community a fighting chance to save important community buildings. To buy time in the future, all we have to do is to make a list of the community assets we value and ask the Council to include them on their register.
Isn't this a no brainier?
Here's what the Dummies' Guide to the Localism Act says on the issue:
Community right to bid (assets of community value)
Every town, village or neighbourhood is home to buildings or amenities that play a vital role in local life. They might include community centres, libraries, swimming pools, village shops, markets or pubs. Local life would not be the same without them, and if they are closed or sold into private use, it can be a real loss to the community.
In many places across the country, when local amenities have been threatened with sale or closure, community groups have taken them over. In some cases, however, community groups who have attempted to take assets over have faced significant challenges. They often need more time to organise a bid and raise money than the private enterprises bidding against them.
The Localism Act requires local authorities to maintain a list of assets of community value which have been nominated by the local community. When listed assets come up for sale or change of ownership, the Act then gives community groups the time to develop a bid and raise the money to bid to buy the asset when it comes on the open market. This will help local communities keep much-loved sites in public use and part of local life.
Attached is Locality's 'how to guide' which explains a little more of what's required. Since the first step is for the Council to determine the format of the list and the procedure I've just spoken with Ciara Whelehan who's leading on this in Haringey's Planning Policy section. She was very helpful and told me that the Council is just starting to look at this. As you might expect the Highgate Society are already compiling their register. I know that a group in Hornsey are doing the same since.
So, What would be on your list?
Tags for Forum Posts: community assets, localism act, salisbury acv, the salisbury
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Not really analogous Ruth - In "Turkish Restaurant " the adjective is useful in that it gives you an idea of what's likely to be on the menu. In the context of Hugh's loss of a communal resource, the nationality of the goods sold is irrelevant and the adjective superfluous.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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well...Dogus is a Turkish owned furniture shop then possibly with Turkish furniture as in made in Turkey
... but let's not split hairs. Have a good day- sun is shining
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Noo, we're not losing the Salisbury. The title of the post is
"Salisbury Pub to be converted to local restaurant" - just imagine.
It's inviting action to make sure we don't lose it.
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Permalink Reply by Anette on
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Therese, thanks for making me laugh with your comment about the Queens Head furniture shop! Just as I was thinking I'd leave HoL for good, slowly losing the will to live as I watched this thread progress..
There's really no need to look for racists under every bush or in every single comment. Please people, stop doing that!
Apologies, off topic here, but so was most of this thread.
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And of course the Arena was lost some time before and the dog track.... there used to be so many more communal spaces. The ones that are left need to be preserved as far as possible.
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Permalink Reply by Conor Moloney on
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Spot on Hugh. Hardly anyone has woken up to the new powers the Localism Act gives people... if only we had the collective will to exercise them!
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Permalink Reply by Gregg H on
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The "right to try" approach of the Localism act is a positive in many ways. Though what will happen in reality is to be seen, if it can get in before the planning process kicks in, it would save a lot of headaches. It would be good to keep 1) an eye on the list in Haringey and 2) look around for examples of what has worked elsewhere.
Its a good question, its all about valuing and using local buildings before we get to this point for me. If a building is underused or struggling, the first step would be to work with managers to get it in to use, something that local people want and can be sustained/grow in financial terms, before it floats on to the market through it not being viable.
The upstairs of the Salisbury is bloody lovely by the way! I've never seen it before - do they have a music license for that space (I presume they do for whole pub)?
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Before I forget Therese from Beresford mentioned to me last night that the New River Path should be added to this list - and we should also include the Gardens Community Garden.
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