It lost an appeal to build on the site, sandwiched between the residential New River Village and the new Haringey Heartlands scheme, in March last year.
Network Rail then flipped the larger depot to south London and brought the smaller one up to Hornsey, as part of the Thameslink upgrade programme - promising around 120 new jobs.
But the move has angered rail union the RMT as the larger depot had promised 270 jobs.
"Without anyone trying, Haringey has lost 150 jobs,” said John Stanford, Hornsey branch secretary of the RMT union. "It really is important that we get those jobs."
The depot has links with nearby schools and uses local contractors, he said, adding: "It means a lot to the people of the borough, from apprenticeships to numerous job vacancies."
Mr Stanford, who has worked at the 340-employee Hampden Road depot in Harringay for 40 years, added: "From the union’s point of view, and with the unemployment in Haringey, we believe that those new jobs should be here."
Network Rail consulted on the smaller scheme earlier this year, with Thameslink programme director Jim Crawford saying at the time that its benefits "will be felt across London and the south east, with significant opportunities for improvements to services on the line through Hornsey". He added: "The revised plans for Hornsey depot strike a balance between providing for a bigger, better railway and taking into account existing and future neighbours."
But Marcus Ballard, chairman of the Parkside Malvern Residents' Association, warned at the time that any development will have a "grave adverse impact” on their neighbourhood and "should be resisted".
The new planning application was due to be submitted to Haringey Council by March 31 (I Haven't been able to find the application on Haringey's planning website - anyone else found it?). It will require the bridge over Turnpike Lane to be widened. Work could take two years, ready for the new Thameslink trains to come into service by 2015.
It is 45 per cent smaller and two metres lower than the larger depot, accommodating three trains instead of the original six.
The Thameslink programme will see capacity increased on north-south routes through central London between Bedford and Brighton and routes to Peterborough and Cambridge via Finsbury Park.
Tags for Forum Posts: hornsey rail depot-heartlands, network rail
BTW, the 'Thameslink programme' was originally known as 'Thameslink 2000' as it was planned to be in service by then - lol - and is now planned to be completed by 2018 and not 2015..
27 years from being first mooted until completion.. not bad ..even by British railway standards..
How on earth can Parkside Malvern oppose this and yet also oppose the council's work at turning Park Ave, Hornsey Park Rd and Wightman Rd into a Green Lanes bypass?
There is more info here. A blog article about what a bunch of nimbys the opposers are here, and some pictures of HGV traffic related to this work... here:
What a wonderfully complex metaphor. And, in these difficult days for Malvern Water, perhaps converting NIMBYS could be added to the long list of its supposed beneficial qualities. Send 'em all to Victorian hydrotherapy camp, that's what I say (after all, the Victorians also loved railways, so maybe it will rub off)...
The strict daily regime at a hydrotherapy centre consisted of plenty of fresh Malvern Water, lots of exercise and a strict diet - which probably accounted for its success. There was a 6am start for 'Packing’, when the patient was wrapped in a long wet sheet and covered in eiderdowns. At 7am the patient was unwrapped, given a cold shower and rubbed down. There were two types of shower: the ‘descending douche’ when a patient stood under a stream of cold Malvern water and the ‘ascending douche’, which needs no description!! This was followed by a hike up the hills, drinking a glass of water on reaching each well or spring. As a concession, the infirm were allowed to ride up on a donkey until they were deemed well enough to walk. Each patient followed a strict diet of no alcohol or rich food
From here
Here are the plans in full on Haringey's planning pages + a Thameslink presentation document (attached).
Also a link to the Thameslink Programme microsite.
I hope this picture helps to understand the scale of it...
It is interesting to note that somewhat clinical view in the picture 2 fails to illustrate the different ground level between the sidings and NRV which can be seen in picture 1. Picture 2 also imulates the environment as it would be in the evening showing the NRV blocks casting a shadow towards the railway but in the morning hours the proposed depot will be casting a shadow towards the NRV. A minor point, compared with the main impact of NOISE that this development will generate 24/7.
What gets me is that the plan to have it in this location was developed before the NRV was built, I doubt the developer ever shared these facts with those who bought properties there.
This needs to be lobbied in a government level as it is where stategic developments like this one are being generated from... Is Featherstone involved?
I doubt the developer ever shared these facts with those who bought properties there
Better start praying to St James the Less Greater Developer.
Meeting announced for tomorrow - via Green N8 - apols for the short notice - more at http://www.harringayonline.com/events/public-meeting-about-network
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