Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Cycling along Green Lanes
There is growing impatience and frustration about the Council’s lack of action on improving cycling and pedestrian safety on Green Lanes.* This mounting concern was covered in a recent piece in the Ham and High (see link below) about this and the growing discontent from cyclist about the safety of cycling along Green Lanes – either as a commuter, or just travelling to the local shops and services.
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/25393803.cycling-campaigner-wants-pr...
As Trump would say…. “Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
*and elsewhere across the borough. All the cycle routes from surrounding boroughs stop abruptly at the Haringey border!
Cycling along Green Lanes has been described as 'hairy' (Image: Carla Francome) (Image: Carla Francome)
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Permalink Reply by Leanne
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I'm in agreement with you and others on this feed.
Removing all the parking 24/7 along Green Lanes between the Arena and Ducketts Common would allow for free moving combined bus/cycle/taxi lanes north and south to encourage active and public transport use.
It may also discourage people from outside the area from driving to Green Lanes, adding to congestion, and encourage them to catch public transport instead.
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"It may also discourage people from outside the area from driving to Green Lanes, adding to congestion, and encourage them to catch public transport instead. "
Green Lanes like Seven Sisters Road like Turnpike Lane like any A road is major transport highway for business, school children, workers,carers,mother's with push chairs, shoppers and work people mending and building stuff in the Ladder and Garden roads including St Anne's. You can't take your tools of the trade on public transport unless you are only carrying a small tool box! What about materials? Deliveries... Arranging transport for the elderly who can't get on a bus safely..and the disabled.... Not everyone can ride a bike or even those that could just don't want to! Not everyone can do the Norman Tebbit calling .."On your bike"!!! It's ridiculous to promote this as the only way forward.
The whole point about Green Lanes is that it's a shopping centre...it's a restaurant area...a very successful one too...it's always going to attract drivers given the parking regs there. The business lobby is all powerful. However it's also a major TFL artery for inner London housing and services so there will always be a need for through travel ways.
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Perhaps you misunderstood but I'm not advocating removing the non-bus lane traffic lanes. There would still be the north and south bound lanes for normal traffic, as there is now, so all those people you mention can still use the road just as they do now.
It is a major north-south artery and always will be, but this section is one of the most congested points.
There could also be out-of-peak time loading bays for shops, but some have access from the rear and this should probably be used instead for deliveries where possible. There is also "shoppers parking" in the adjoining Ladder and Garden roads. For work people, there's the visitor permits from the residents they are working for...
I'm not saying this is a solution, but a suggestion and my support for betterment for all.
As a mother with a school kids that walk up Green Lanes every day, and a shopper, a worker, a cyclist and a bus user, I would love Green Lanes to be less congested and polluted than it is as I travel up and down it. As a prior car driver I would do my best to avoid it as it was always too congested. So I'd say in it's current state, I don't think it works in a great way for anyone.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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Agree. However traders believe the current state works for them. And within the council Majority Group, their views have always overruled any other consideration. Local Authority Transport policy & practice sits deep in the pocket of local businesses.
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Permalink Reply by Pugface
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There is a perfect opportunity to put some of these major issues and concerns directly to Cllr Hakata (Lead Member for Climate Action, Environment, and Transport) this Saturday. He is joining the Big Secret Safari Ride from Tottenham Flower and Produce Festival and has agreed to take questions at the end of the ride.
There is more information on the ride at the HoL Event page. The ride starts at 11am from the Hub Cafe in Lordship Rec. Please come and join the community ride and visit the Tottenham Flower and Produce Festival.
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- 15 months later, no work was started
- In the "marble" block, the superfluous material remains untouched
- 15 months after the Public Relations effort, there is no sign of a sculptor or any chisel
- With the #CurrentCrew at Borough of Culture 2027, there is no reason to expect any change to be delivered in the next eight months, at least.
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Sadly, I can’t make it to the Q&A, but, if you’re going, perhaps you’d like to ask Mike Hakata why he hasn’t made good on his promise (in an e-mail to me, and probably to others) to introduce comprehensive mitigation measures in Green Lanes to cope with the extra traffic load generated by the LTNs before their introduction. Or, for that matter, why nothing has been done since they added to the congestion (and pollution) on what Barbara accurately calls a “major transport highway”. Sorting out GL would be a major part of making travel through the area faster, cleaner and better for everyone.
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Permalink Reply by Alice Mezzo
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It's absolutely insane to me that the council allows parking in what could be a bus and cycle lane. The whole stretch is a constant traffic jam nightmare because of this. It's like Haringey council are living in 1991 - beyond time for change.
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HARINGEY Council's excellent Cycling Action Plan (of the year 2004) gathered dust before being abandoned. In it's place are robust public-relations and publications, without limit.
The council's preference is for words, not action. They are unable to make any improvement to Green Lanes, largely due to the long-time, cosy relationship between shop keepers and the council Majority Group.
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