Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey "the most divided borough" in the "most unequal city in the western world"
London has become the most unequal city in the western world, according to Professor Danny Dorling of the University of Sheffield.
His new book Injustice: Why Social Inequality Persists, shows that the richest tenth of Londoners had an average wealth of £933,563, a figure 273 times greater than the lowest 10 per cent, with an average wealth of £3,420. The gap is bigger than comparable cities such as New York or Tokyo.
And zooming in on Haringey, the data shows our borough as the most divided borough in London. Of its 19 wards, four are in the richest 10% and five are in the poorest 10%.
London's Poverty Profile has been created by one of London's largest charitable trusts, the City Parochial Foundation, and the independent think tank, New Policy Institute. It uses the latest official data to reveal patterns of poverty across the capital. It looks at how London compares to other English regions and cities, and the differences between London boroughs.
See more about how Haringey fares here.
His new book Injustice: Why Social Inequality Persists, shows that the richest tenth of Londoners had an average wealth of £933,563, a figure 273 times greater than the lowest 10 per cent, with an average wealth of £3,420. The gap is bigger than comparable cities such as New York or Tokyo.
And zooming in on Haringey, the data shows our borough as the most divided borough in London. Of its 19 wards, four are in the richest 10% and five are in the poorest 10%.
London's Poverty Profile has been created by one of London's largest charitable trusts, the City Parochial Foundation, and the independent think tank, New Policy Institute. It uses the latest official data to reveal patterns of poverty across the capital. It looks at how London compares to other English regions and cities, and the differences between London boroughs.
See more about how Haringey fares here.
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Permalink Reply by JeremyS on
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My first reaction to that is to recoil in horror. It sounds so unfair. But let me understand, what's the basis of your position? How would it work to the advantage of the poorer half?
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I assume that could also be accomplished with different data presentation. This could perhaps be done through a requirement from central government that councils publish their data in certain ways - this to prevent councils from hiding behind stats.
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Permalink Reply by E. F. Salzman on
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Same question I have abut splitting the borough. (BTW, Mr. Hoyle, don't presume I'm naive enough to take my positions on the basis of media. Believe me, I know from personal experienced how that works. And also please don't polarise my points in a way that handily undermines them. Okay any bonus of over a few thousand a year will do for purposes of example....)
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Permalink Reply by Mr Growbag on
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I wonder whether carving up the borough would make so much of a difference in the current economic climate anyway? Are the same levels of cash going to be available for urban regeneration as have apparently been pumped into Tower Hamlets and bits of Hackney previously, now that "there's no money left"... ?
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Permalink Reply by HoL Site Admin on
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Let's keep it cordial folks!!
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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When the London Poverty Profile came out, we carried a short discussion on it here.
The point that strikes me is that there needs to be a rethink about how areas are characterised. Without necessarily splitting, it is possible to plan by recognising that East Haringey should be seen for the purposes of funding as part of a grouping comprising 'Inner East and South': Hackney, Haringey, Islington, Lambeth, Lewisham, Newham, Southwark,Tower Hamlets and that one size fits all planning may not be appropriate.
With regard to fairness, a Joseph Rowntree report on street cleanliness (a subject dear to my heart) suggests that trying to achieve equal outcomes receives weak political support, so more covert approaches to targetting resources may be needed with more effective use made of frontline staff's experience while keeping those in more affluent neighbourhoods assured of a maintenance of standards. Better mapping of problems, identification of inefficiencies and valuing intelligence from front line staff all help to direct resources more effectively.
Moreover, we should be careful not to create schism. There are a number of people from the Sustainable Haringey movement, for example, who are resistant to the idea of an east/west split which they say only advantages local politicians. Although most of you probably thought OAE's idea of twinning was more of his famous satire, in fact it finds resonance with their ideas about twinning campaigns such as Wards Corner and Hornsey Town Hall
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It's noticable that in recent months, the level of flytipping and littering has fallen around here. When I began my 'campaign', I could fully expect to find items of furniture and rubbish outside my house daily and Green Lanes was revolting, but this has become less of a problem on my street and GL is doing better. This could be down to the more effective targetting that I mentioned above as we know that Harringay became one of the trial areas for street cleaning and other intiatives.
However, the problem moves around as we have seen from discussions about problems on Seymour and yesterday Hewitt Rd was pretty stinky with flytipped rubbish in a couple of places near GL.
In a sense, you are making my point. You have identified 3 streets that suffer from dumping and rubbish. Take photos, patiently report it to Enterprise while building your portfolio of filth and speak to local street enforcement officers (you will have one for your specific area) about walkabouts and identifying culprits. Mapping and frontline intelligence and using your data bring it the attention to councillors and the cabinet member responsible. COnsider what may be causing this e.g. high levels of HMOs are often a factor as landlords dump stuff rather then paying for its removal.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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The divisions of towns and cities into better-off and poorer areas is often signalled by the state of streets, parks and squares. There are very real obstacles to having consistently high standards of street cleanliness. Sometimes it's a question of cash: in many towns and cities cuts may lead to fewer staff and less frequent cleaning.
I'm still hopeful, Liz, that thoughtful intelligence-led responses can work. But only if there is close working among Haringey staff. This means Enforcement and Waste Management, of course. But also with the temporary housing team, with Planning, and Adult Social Services and others. Involvement of Agencies like the Fire Brigade and Police is also vital.
As is the key role of local residents in reporting litter and dumping; and as "community detectives". The Police understand this very well. I'm not sure the message has yet got through to some of Haringey's senior managers.
Many years ago we had an Environmental Scrutiny Committee which I chaired. We arranged a morning for its members (who at one time included then councillors Lynne Featherstone and Nicky Gavron) to go out for half-a-day sweeping the roads. We were paired-off with a regular cleaner and I swept streets in Crouch End. And it did look pretty good even before we got the brooms out. The key difference, my colleague for the morning told me, was that Crouch End residents continually reported the smallest piece of litter.
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Just walking through newly renovated Fairground park/playground bet Fairfax and Falkland and hey presto someone had already dumped their garbage there, with bag broken open by animals.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Agree re reporting + now it's easy - just use the Report a Problem button towards the top right of most pages on HoL (including this one). Easy-peasy two minute jobbie.
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It certainly is. Thanks again for making it easy/possible. (Am I right you're the one who'd put this whole site together? Or thanks to whomever did.)
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Alan: Crouch End Litter: there may be a another reason for the cleaner streets. I have more than once noticed one particular street sweeper in Crouch End working hard, enthusiastically and with real dedication. He was working independently and unsupervised.
I record this because I think (a) he deserves a medal and (b) because I don't think it's typical.
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