Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Wightman/Alroy Traffic Calming Works
Haringey Council's Traffic pages show that the works to install humps on Wightman & Alroy Roads are scheduled for March.
Tags for Forum Posts: Wightman traffic calming, traffic, wightman Road
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Permalink Reply by f1nsburyparker on
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What they should do first is put a pelican crossing on the Endymion Road access to the park. I can't understand why every other park entrance has one and this one hasn't. I'd say you've got a one on three chance of a car stopping for you if you're waiting to get across.
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Permalink Reply by WightmanPaul on
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I agree, and the proposed raised kerb-to-kerb platform serving South Harringay School should be a controlled crossing point. I am informed that the installation of such a crossing is hugely expensive because of the electrical work involved. Back to budgets and priorities and public pressure.
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Permalink Reply by PaulG on
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"What they should do first is put a pelican crossing on the Endymion Road access to the park"
You mean by the gates?
There is a zebra crossing on the New River entrance on Endymion Road. It seems to me to suffice.
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Permalink Reply by TTTH on
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I think Jim means traffic lights and that would be safer, but a zebra crossing should still slow traffic with a raised platform. Right now I walk out on it all the time and risk my life/ hurl abuse/ whatever it takes, but a pelican crossing would calm my nerves.
Did anyone else submit comments on Wightman/ Alroy Rd consultation? I submitted via email and also asked for an update a couple of weeks ago and nothing. It's great that it's happening, but I hope that they amended the plans based on the community's views. That is afterall what a consultation is for?
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That's exactly what I mean Colin - people seem to actually accelerate towards the crossing as they like to drive around the bend.
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I got a response from the Council re. the consultation. I guess it highlights the importance of getting in there at the beginning of the consultation. There is not much chance of changing anything by postal or email consultation. It just allows them to say that 93% are in favour of the proposed scheme.
"Dear Mr Bannon,
Thank you for the email dated 12th January 2010 regarding your concern about the lack of pedestrian crossing places along Alroy Road.
I sympathise with the concerns raised and can assure you that the council regards road safety, particularly pedestrian safety, as a high priority and actively promotes road safety measures across the borough to reduce vehicle speeds and road traffic accidents.
The Wightman Road 20mph zone proposal has been developed with extensive consultation with ward councillors, resident’s association representatives and cycling campaigners. The results of the feedback and comments we received from the statutory consultation were 93% in favour of the proposed scheme. With the majority of feedback supporting the scheme we have submitted a delegated report to be signed off by the Cabinet Member for Environment and Conservation and Director of Urban Environment, the report includes the consultation feedback and our recommendations which are to proceed with the implementation of this scheme.
As part of a 20mph zone physical features are required to help reduce vehicle speeds and make the zone self enforcing. The physical features have been strategically placed in this proposal to optimise their effectiveness in reducing vehicle speed. Due to parking constraints along Alroy Road an uncontrolled crossing was not included in our preliminary design and instead a flat top hump was proposed to reduce vehicle speeds.
The proposed uncontrolled crossing on Wightman Road junction with Pemberton Road has been included in the design because a school is located on Pemberton Road. To reduce the risk of a collision at this junction it is necessary to have a crossing point as both parents and children cross the road frequently on route to and from the local school.
A drastic change to our proposal will require a re-consultation that would prevent the scheme starting on time and may jeopardise the project altogether. We will take onboard your suggestion and look to future year’s funding for an opportunity to properly investigate the demand in the area for better crossing facilities.
[name and address is available]
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I think there was quite a bit of discussion about the consultation on this site Colin, but I know how tough it is for us all to get the time to respond.
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Thanks Hugh. Yes looking through them I think I commented on some, just a shame i missed the actual initial consultation with councillors, residents groups, etc. Guess I'll just have to make do with my little hump outside, ha, ha!
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Permalink Reply by HoL Site Admin on
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The discussion on council consultations that emerged from this thread has been moved to another discussion here.
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Permalink Reply by Dick Harris on
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I see that the Council's consultation web-site does not show a link to the consultation results for the Wightman Road case.
Presumably, the results will not simply be yes or no and, even if it is yes, there could also be modifications to what was proposed. Showing a date for scheduling the works would suggest that all the plans have been finalised.
Do you know where to find them?
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Perhaps I am going on a tangent to what you are actually saying Dick, but it got me thinking. Why did Haringey Council ask us to comment via email or post on the designs, if they where only asking for a yes or no answer on whether we were in favour of the proposals?
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