Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Harringay Ladder left out of Haringey’s Streetspace Plans
It's with crushing disappointment, and no sense of surprise whatsoever, that I see that the Ladder and Wightman have been left out of Haringey’s Streetspace Plans pitching for TFL funding. They are putting forward a request for a Low Traffic Neighbourhood around St Ann's Ward, though, in response to the problem they have with rat running! In the pitch: "This area of the borough suffers from significant problems of rat running, high levels of congestion and low air quality."
It honestly beggars belief that this area, already protected from rat running from traffic from the west by closing the Gardens is somehow a bigger priority for a Low Traffic Neighbourhood than the Ladder, which demonstrably carries more rat running traffic. It's so counterintuitive as to be absurd. The result of even more streets around the Ladder being closed to traffic will be the inevitable displacement of more traffic on to the Ladder. The Ladder and its traffic, rat running and polution problem seems to be literally invisible to the council and it's ongoing policy, it seems, to surround the entire Ladder, north, south, east and west, with no traffic roads.
And no school street scheme for either North Harringay or South Harringay primary schools.
Anyway, here's the website. Read it and weep. Democracy, eh?
https://www.haringey.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/travel/transpo...
Tags for Forum Posts: ladder ltn, low traffic neighbourhoods, traffic
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Permalink Reply by PeterPiper on
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No kidding, still in the 20th century!
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Rory my friend, it's with crushing disappointment, and no sense of surprise whatever, that I see that the Ladder and Wightman are still being seen as two distinct entities. At the risk of repeating my 13-year old mantra, Ever seen a Ladder, folks?
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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Surely there's got to be a rationale underpinning this design? Could we contact the council and understand on what basis some of these questionable decisions were taken?
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I suspect your best chance is probably a Freedom of Information request
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What I don't understand is that everyone wants their Street free of traffic yet everyone has a car and wants to drive. So the traffic should be shared too, not all diverted to a main road where people live too, hello!!! (Very selfish attitude!). So whoever does the loudest or has connections gets a traffic free Street to the expense of others. I live on Philip lane by the way.....
Give it some thought and think of us all.
If you use a car yourself, whether owned or Uber, or even get deliveries to your house, you should just shut up.
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I think it has more to do with health and climate change implications rather than car ownership don't you? There are high incidences of respiratory disease particularly amongst children in east Haringey, which places a burden on health services etc. Public transport is under stress because of the pandemic and social distancing. Much emphasis is placed on cycling and walking for short journeys in these schemes in preference to using a car. The other issue is an attempt to eliminate so called rat runs. Philip Lane has a regular bus service as well, doesn't it?
That's not to say that there are no occasions where a car might be necessary.
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Permalink Reply by Grand Parader on
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Your a rare voice, Brigitte - on these forums at least. Most writers seem to forget that almost all roads in London are residential. There's a distinction being made about 'houses'. Between The Salisbury and the bridge on Grand Parade / Green Lanes there are 1500 to 2000 residents living above the shops - rarely mentioned or considered in posts.
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That's due to the denominator being quite large. What do you expect, 1 vehicle per individual? The point is that in the context of widely available, relatively cheap, often times clean public transport, there are thousands of individuals who choose to drive just because they can. There is a TFL worker on my street who drives every day...
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I dunno - it's done by households - of which the majority in Haringey as a whole don't.
Take my estate for example, there's only 6/15 families with cars and one family with four ( taking up the free communal parking )
I think the council should take into account that obesity and air quality are more important that the ability of people to drive to the shopping centre - it would revitalise the small shops and people would use cars to get to work or on weekends for leisure.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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“You should just shut up” - blimey!
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