Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Parking Permit Consultation
Dear Permit Holder,
Haringey Council is proposing to increase parking permit prices and introduce surcharges to diesel fuelled vehicles. These proposed changes will help to reduce parking pressures, congestion, reduce carbon emissions and improve air quality.
The statutory consultation which starts on Wednesday 3 June, will run for a period of 21 days, closing on Wednesday 24 June, and proposes the following changes:
- Parking permits – a £10 increase across all existing parking permits to support the significant costs of running, maintaining and enforcing our parking infrastructure.
- Additional parking permits – A £50 surcharge on second and subsequent permits to reduce car ownership, promote active travel and more sustainable modes of travel.
- Diesel fuelled vehicles – An £80 surcharge for diesel fuelled vehicles to highlight the impact of diesel emissions on local air quality and influence cleaner future vehicle choices.
- On-street pay-to-park and off-street car parks – a 25% surcharge to on-street pay-to-park areas and off-street car parks to discourage short trips within the borough.
- Visitor permits – households would be limited to no more than two daily visitor permits at any one time. Daily visitor permits would increase to £4 across all CPZ areas. A concessionary rate discount of 50% will be applied to the visitor permit charge for those aged 65 or over, or if registered disabled.
- Disabled Blue Badge Holders – a free residential permit for Disabled Blue Badge Holders to replace the companion badge scheme and the requirement to display that permit.
- Administration Fee for parking permit refunds – the council is proposing a £20 administration fee on processing parking permit refunds. It is also proposed that visitor scratch cards shall become non-refundable.
If the proposed changes are agreed by the council in September 2020, the new prices would be introduced in November 2020. For more information on these proposals, please visit our current parking consultations page.
Please email us at frontline.consultation@haringey.gov.uk if you have any comments on the proposals.
We would also like to take this opportunity to let you know that parking enforcement will be resuming soon and we will update Haringey residents once a date has been agreed.
Kind regards,
Frontline Consultation
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Permalink Reply by Gina Fenton on
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I do hope the die is not cast. It was such belief that led me not to attend a meeting proposing to close my road half way so it wouldn’t be a ‘rat-run’. But the objectors went to the meeting and the scheme was cancelled. DO ENGAGE IN THE CONSULTATION!
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I’m not suggesting that people should not engage with the Council in general. My record of active engagement shows that. Meeting with the Council over a highly localised issue is one matter: responding to a consultation is quite another. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do either.
In my experience, Haringey seems to use consultations as stopovers on the route to a predetermined destination. In my experience, they rarely use the opportunity to check the map and change course.
The purpose of my response was to think through how I feel about raising the cost of car ownership in Haringey. I did not intend to dissuade people from participating in engagement with the Council. Just yesterday, one of my neighbours copied me on his emailed response to the Council on this issue. Whilst he largely accepted the cost increases, he took issue with the limit on visitor permits.
In my opinion, a well thought through email or letter is always worthwhile. I'm less keen of responding to a consultation by filling in a form or answering all-to-often badly designed questionnaires.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Hugh, you wrote that:
"In [your] experience, Haringey seems to use consultations as stopovers on the route to a predetermined destination. In [your] experience, they rarely use the opportunity to check the map and change course."
When it comes to parking I don't entirely agree, and can cite examples where previous local schemes have indeed been tweaked and changed following consultation.
But your overall critique and suspicion about a "predetermined destination" may be widely shared. Not least because the Council's PR has too often tended to vagueness and obfuscation.
We are clearly at a watershed in how both private and public transport needs to change and probably transform. Maybe someone - or more than one person - within the Council's staff has a vision/new thinking which could be shared with all Haringey's residents?
If so, I haven't yet seen traces of this.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Barker on
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Excellently put Hugh. And I think the argument for shifting the financial burden more towards use rather than ownership of cars is important. At present it seems as if use of a car for a short distance costs nothing. A road user charge would bring home to people that that is not the case and maybe discourage them from making short trips.
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Permalink Reply by andy h on
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Seems a logical arguement (one I've used myself on occasions) but its possible that it would just be another tax that disproportionally hits the less well off.
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My argument was to shift the burden not to create an additional one. The aim would be to make those who use their car the most pay the most. However, that was only part of my position. I also argued that the change should be accompanied by a more progressive local tax system.
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I'm not disagreeing with you Hugh, just pointing out one possible unintended consequence. Taxation as well as the voting system in this counrty are just archaic as is the whole notion of the UK and None are fit for purpose. But that's probably for another thread, one day, maybe, when people are willing to listen.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Harvey on
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Govt already price road tax/vehicle duty to penalise polluting diesels. Modern diesels are cleaner than petrol, so how will they allow for this... or just proposing a blanket surcharge for any diesel regardless of whether it's a low or high polluting one?
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Permalink Reply by DavidJ on
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The current permit charges are based on CO2 emissions.
Diesels are 'good' at being low CO2. The current charge for a low CO2 diesel (ULEZ compliant) is very low . . . £21/31
So I guess this is to take account of the fact that diesel are not so good a NOx pollution.
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I agree that broadly NOx is bad and bad should cost more. But diesel simply doesn't equate to higher NOx.
As an example, a big, heavy 3L 2017 Diesel BMW has NOx of 44mg/km.
A light, small 1.4L 2017 Petrol Ford Fiesta has NOx of 58mg/k.
The Fiesta is also worse for CO emissions and THC emissions.
Not only is the £80 not proportional, it's fundamentally wrong
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