Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

More Traffic Headed for Wightman - 2 days to Act

Last October I raised the issue that possible street closures in surrounding areas would displace traffic our way.

One of the areas was Crouch End.

A consultation for those living/working in the area is in progress and one of the options being consulted on is the closure to through traffic (except for buses, emergency vehicles and cyclists) of one or more major roads, such as The Broadway.

A traffic survey for the Crouch End project suggests such a change might mean 2000 more vehicles a day in both directions for Wightman.

Harringay residents can make their views known via the questionnaire.

To complete the questionnaire go to:

https://www.haringey.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/roads-and-stre...

After the initial section you can opt to only complete the one on traffic. The deadline is 2 February.

Postscript navigation note: (For oversized lorry stuck on Warham, see P14, here.)

Tags for Forum Posts: liveable crouch end, liveable neighbourhoods, oversize hgvs on warham, traffic

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Permalink Reply by Adrian Hackney on January 31, 2020 at 9:38

Just because road pricing is in the questionnaire does not make it practical.

Crouch End is as much in decline as any other town with a high street

and given the mayor's piecemeal approach it does seem to be every man for himself

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on January 31, 2020 at 10:42

I guess you’re right. I suppose there would be little surprise in Haringey consulting on something they have no intention of introducing. It is Haringey Council Traffic Dept after all.

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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth M on January 31, 2020 at 22:51

One of the original reasons for choosing Crouch End is because its in the middle of a TfL favoured cycle way which is apparently going from Wood Green to Camden and without some form of traffic management like this the cycle route won't work. Its not because of any specific Crouch End problem aside from the place being a nightmare in rush hours or when parking is unrestricted and walking our kids to school has to be done whilst breathing diesel fumes.

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on February 1, 2020 at 1:57

The choice of a cycle route through Crouch End is a whole other subject that I won’t reopen here. And yes there is too much traffic In Crouch End and too many fumes. But is very far from being one of the worst impacted in the borough.

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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth M on February 1, 2020 at 7:39

Absolutely agree its not the worst impacted - I say bring on schemes for the whole Borough. But you asked why Crouch End and that's why. The money is in TfL's gift so their priorities win over Haringey's.

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Permalink Reply by Alisha on January 31, 2020 at 22:31

I've been arguing against the road closures (that were trialed) for the Liveable Crouch End scheme for months. I've lived on Crouch End borders (Ridge Road) for 40 years but I'm against this proposed tinkering, not least out of consideration for the people living on roads left open, where all the traffic will be vastly increased. Traffic on Tottenham Lane during the road closures trial was horrendous, an increase of almost 50% at times (admitted in the results published by the 'scheme'). It's all so badly thought through. Make public transport fares irresistibly low, and include rush hour, the tube and the overground – say £2 to cross London. That would have an effect. Here below is a composite photo showing typical traffic on Tottenham Lane during the trial, and then afterwards. The trial turned Crouch End into a nightmare throughout

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During trial : Normal after, 3 MB

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Permalink Reply by PeterPiper on February 2, 2020 at 1:57

Alisha, I could not help but smile when I saw your 2 comparative photos. The shot of the Topsfield Parade? 'during' the trial is the normality I see regularly on Grim Green Lanes on a daily basis between approx 3:30pm - 8:00pm everyday of the week and Sunday!! afternoons. The 'normal after' is a rare sight only experienced just before & after the morning rush hour for a few hours, or late in the evening.

As an observation, I'm very surprised that parking was allowed to continue on the Broadway during the trial; I would have thought that even an unqualified consultant in the pub would've realised that it would be necessary to have a temporary suspension of kerb-side parking during the trial. Kerb-side parking is a major contributory factor to a lack of free flowing traffic and needs to be rigorously enforced with 'tow-away' measures.

Come to Grim Green Lanes on a "free-parking" Sunday afternoons to see what I mean, coupled with right turns across the flow, & 'U' turns for added shuffle-speed. And all the while, the tail-pipes keep emitting. Throw in a waste collection vehicle or 2 from an outside borough on a contract & you have the full omelette.

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Permalink Reply by Tom on February 2, 2020 at 13:14

Crouch End is a Lib Dem stronghold. If it’s a disaster the Labour Council won’t lose any votes... perhaps that’s why they’re not willing to make the case for it?