Lost Harringay: 13-15 Grand Parade

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on March 9, 2019 at 6:46

Oops, my typo.  Just checked Kelly’s again and it is Gunner as you say.  The listing for the bit of Green Lanes (Kimberly Gardens to Salisbury Road) is as follows

22 - Pritchard Restaurant 

21 - Fleming Reid and Co scotch wools

20 - Freeman, Hardy and Willis

18 &19 - L Cooper costumiers 

17 - Wheelers provisions

16 - Judah Davis fishmonger

14 & 15 - Robert Gunner cheesmonger

13 - John Knight pawnbroker

The alphabetical commercial directory part of the Kelly’s has

Gunner, Robert, cheesemonger, 14 &15 Grand Parade, Green Lanes, HP (Harringay Park?)

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 9, 2019 at 7:17

So he’d expanded into 14 by 1935. Given the published reference I found to Gunner in the court of butchers at 15 grand parade, and the possibility that the stores weren’t knocked through, I wonder if he ran three consecutive stores each selling a different part of his range. He definitely started life as a provisions store and was certainly working in meats. Maybe 14 was the cheese department? I’ll see if I can come up with anything more conclusive. 

But what a rich retail texture your list shows, eh. 

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on March 9, 2019 at 7:49

The shop listings for Green Lanes are phenomenal.  You really could get everything from a pound of nails to a made to measure suit.

I’m thinking that cheesemonger might be a fairly broad term and be more like a delicatessen is now. For instance in the northeast we had places called pork butchers that sold cooked meats and pies.

Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on March 9, 2019 at 13:48

No Kebabs then?

Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 9, 2019 at 15:28

I haven't yet been able to find any more on Gunner's but I did find the ad below for 13-14 Grand Parade. This was in a 1913 report of the Harringay Ratepayer's Assoc.

Permalink Reply by Alyson on April 4, 2019 at 11:40

Those tiles remind me of the old Sainbury's shops from my early childhood.

Interesting to have that definition of Groceries and Provisions - thanks.

I wonder if the Scotch Wool Shop had moved to Wood Green by the 1960s, there were 3 or 4 wool shops between Turnpike Lane and Wood Green. Nice advert for the Drapers too!

Permalink Reply by Norman Finnimore on March 11, 2020 at 21:42

Twice i have wrote the full SP on Ernest & Robert Gunner being a hobby meat trade historian & lost it,

So in short they joined West Layton Ltd to become West Gunner Ltd.

Sold in the mid 80,s to Vesteys Dewhurst for £1.1 million = 110 shops.

Dewhurst went in 1995.

Ask me for more detail if this works,

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Permalink Reply by Carla on April 17, 2019 at 19:20

Just spoke to my mum the egg shop was where yasha halim is, she thinks it's now the middle shop. 

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on April 17, 2019 at 21:24

Yasar Halim now have 491 - 497. They took over Ray's Newsagents at 491 back in 2009.

I suspect the so-called 'egg-shop' traded at 495.

I can find no trace of any shop trading under the name Egg Store or Egg Shop or anything simillar. Although there was one in both Stoke Newington & Tottenham.

Ask your mum if it was Malcolm and Alice Newman's shop at 495. Malcolm was Henry and Jeanie's boy. 

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on April 18, 2019 at 0:09

Could this be the "Egg Shop" that people have mentioned over the years?

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on April 18, 2019 at 23:46

I was chatting with another long-term Harringayite today and they too remember an egg shop opposite Woolworths (now Iceland). So I'm beginning to think there were maybe two egg shops I suspect that the Iceland one was Newman's.

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Permalink Reply by Dave W on March 9, 2019 at 8:38

Thanks for all the digging you’ve done here, chaps... what a centre of commerce Green Lanes once was!

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