Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Disabled Parking Bay outside ones home to be assigned to the disabled resident of that home
some time ago I posted regarding disabled parking bays outside someone’s home being assigned to that home. This is because many disabled people have a disabled bay put for them outside their home then anyone else holding a blue badge can park in that bay. Other boroughs have now assigned these bays to the disabled householder. The council is now going to consult on this I believe on the 8th April 2019. This would mean that if a disabled bay is placed outside someone’s home as the householder needs it only that householders disabled bluebadge could be used to park. I would be interested to know how many other disabled residents have this problem so I can advise Haringey. Are you disabled and have a disabled bay outside your home? Do you find that others park in that bay regularly? Does it affect your life or restrict you going out due to this? All feedback welcome..Thank you for your help.
UPDATE
I have been advised that the disabled parking issue will be discussed tomorrow 8th April 2019 with suggestions on how to move forward. I will post the suggestions and updates after this meeting. In the meantime if you have problems parking in your disabled bay or know someone in this position please keep comments coming. Would also like to thank all Councillors involved for their efforts in this matter and for everyone’s comments..thank you
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Permalink Reply by Kyri on
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Yes I have a disabled bay outside house and it is rarely used by other disabled drivers. My biggest problem is that it is often used by delivery drivers, builders and workmen from companies like Thames Water.
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Permalink Reply by Saddic on
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Yes, have a bay and it is often used by other blue badge holders and non-badge holders. It will be wonderful if it was assigned to the person who needs it.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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But other Blue Badge holders may need it too. If, say, I'm visiting your neighbour.
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Oh I agree, John, but these people seem to park in the disabled bay rather than in other non-allocated spaces in the road. And, I must add, most then leg it to the local shops/gambling den when there are vacant spaces nearer their destination
Most blue badge holders know that an allocated bay is there because that person really does need the car close to home.
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Since in Haringey you can park in any residents , pay and display and yellow line I’m sure if you visit a neighbour chances are you will be able to park there. If not it is still unfair if you take someone else’s disabled bay because to get it you don’t just have to have a bluebadge but must prove via medical evidence that you must be close to your home.
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Permalink Reply by Madeline on
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In Haringey, yes, BB holders can park almost anywhere in residents bays. But it's not so for all London boroughs. I know it's not a Haringey problem but as I said earlier a lot of the time my BB is of no use whatsoever if I'm visiting outside the borough.
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We have one for my husband. We have had people parking there with blue badges which does cause us issues. After the test events and last night's match, I think the majority of occurrences are going to be on match days. If you have a blue badge then you can park in the disabled bays regardless of the event day restrictions so it means my husband can't go out on those days.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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When I was an elected councillor the issue of blue badges at Spurs games came up and there were allegations of some limited instances of abuse. Though not all such such allegations were proved. Both staff and local councillors were aware that it's not always obvious and apparent when either someone is disabled or is accompanying a disabled person.
The huge increase in spectator numbers is already posing problems for residents near the out-of-scale out-of-place new Spurs stadium. My guess is that things are likely to get worse as the club tries to maximise its income by extending the range of events - both sports and other crowd events like concerts.
The Council's ruling clique appears to be mainly concerned to please and accommodate the club's owners. They show little or no thought or concern for the wider interests of residents. There's also a proposed land-grab underway for Bruce Castle Park.
I hope I'm wrong and these worries don't materialise. But if they do, my suggestion to any blue badge holder affected is to report the facts by email to:
* their local councillors,
* the Council Leader and Deputy Leader;
* and the "cabinet" member for the Environment;
Urge them to try hard not to behave like star-struck kids; and to get up from their knees when dealing with Spurs.
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In Haringey you can also use residents and pay and display with your blue badge for visiting your neighbour. People tend to have bay outside their house as they need to be able to park that close to their home. I won’t park in a blue bay in a residential street outside someone’s house as I don’t want to cause a problem for the resident.
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Permalink Reply by Zena Brabazon on
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This issue is on the agenda for the Environment Scrutiny Panel on Monday evening. I have spoken to Adam Jogee, Chair of the Committee, who tells me that a review of the Council's disabled bay and Blue badge scheme will be discussed with terms of reference etc to be agreed. Seema Chandwani, Mahir Demir and I have been pressing hard for this issue to be looked at and for the system to be changed. Currently even applying for a disabled bay is hugely cumbersome and bureaucratic which makes it very hard for disabled people to deal with. One current requirement is that applicants must be eligible for PIP - but you can't get PIP if you are over 65 which puts another - almost insurmountable - obstacle in the way for those over 65. There is no rationale for the system we currently have - a review which results in a fair, transparent and understandable application and decision-making process is long overdue.
This is a real and practical equality issue which - if sound changes are made - would vastly improve the quality of life for disabled people.
I am aiming to go to the meeting on Monday evening.
Zena
Zena Brabazon
Cllr, Harringay ward
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Thank you Zena for your reply. You are correct that there is so much bureaucracy in getting the bay put outside ones home. In my case it took nearly a year with hospital reports and GP records. So after all that then anyone with a BB can park in the bay when sometimes there is space next to it. Clearly there is a distinct discrimitory element here as in other boroughs they do have a scheme where the disabled bay outside someone’s home is allocated to that home. Surely a disabled person is disabled whether they live in Haringey or not and all should be treated the same. If other boroughs can do this why can’t Haringey. I have checked the Road Traffic act and can’t find anything which prevents the borough allowing this. The reason goes back to funds, but when I read that Haringey have funded thousands for an app, thousands for publicising why they increased the council tax, why can’t they fund this.
I must add that Cll Seema has worked very hard in resolving this issue and thank her for all her help. Thank you also for your help and by reading comments on here it would appear there are so many disabled people trapped at home because they fear if they go out they can’t park when they get home. Anything you can do is also well appreciated. Thank you.
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I have a disabled bay outside of my home, and I have had some problems with other people parking in it, including, once, a driving instructor with his student. One night someone parked in it, and I left him a note politely suggesting he was breaking the law. He left me a note which said (and I still have it) “Listen you old bag mind your business There’s plenty disabled parking bay on this road. So in future go suck out.”
The other problem is that often people park in the bay at night, when I have gone out, and after inspectors have gone home and are gone in the morning. Precisely what one does about those cars I am not sure.
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