Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Avoid Western Road Recycling Centre today?
We walked past twice this morning, an hour apart - traffic was queuing back to Coburg Road.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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Thanks. I've wondered about going the last two weekends but worried it would very busy - wonder how much of this is due to the recent changes in garden waste collection? This must be the first real test of how effective the new system is going to be in practice...
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Permalink Reply by MD on
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The queues were just as bad in both directions yesterday and, yes, a lot of people did appear to be dumping garden waste. I think it was going straight into the household waste containers too (I was dropping off old furniture), rather than a designated garden one.
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Last year I took some green waste there and there was no space left in the green container (one of the guys there said they'd been overwhelmed by the volume of garden waste and were waiting for their full container to be emptied) - so I wonder if it's the same problem.
I completely agree with what Michael says - this outcome was entirely predictable and is hard to justify on environmental grounds. Less importantly, but annoyingly, it's a worse service than the previous free one because Veolia will only empty the garden waste bin and won't take any extra.
Does anyone know how many residents have taken up the new service - presume it needs a certain number to be viable?
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Also Alison, the people hauling their stuff to the recycling centre are those who care enough to do it and/or have the means to do it - I.e a car. I think it’s highly likely that a lot of garden waste that would have gone for recycling via the household collection now ends up in domestic wastebins or on the street (a stroll around seems to confirm the street dumping alternative)
In the meanwhile I, and I would imagine many others, have bags of garden waste I can’t get to the recycling centre as I don’t have a car or the money to sign up for the doorstep service.
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Yes I agree. And - as another post here is discussing - I am sure that those who can't or won't go the recycling centre will just put it in their general waste. So material that could be composted and reused ends up in general landfill.
Really interested to see what the Council say in response to the FOI request. My sense (based on my road) is that hardly anyone has signed up in our part of Haringey. But I suspect that the FOI request will just give you overall figures rather than something on an area by area basis (and my guess would be that sign up is much higher in the more affluent parts of the borough ..).
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I'm one of the nudged residents - caving in and signing up.....
Given what I've heard about the sacks (and I'm not in the least surprised), through gritted teeth I've gone for the smaller bin. It won't be big enough in the summer time, but we want to minimise the binness of our front garden.
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Permalink Reply by Alyson on
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I heaved a sigh and paid too, but went for the bags (having no room for another bin.) Also, I'm bringing stuff through the house as I don't have side access. I still use the old white bags to support the plastic bags while filling them, and have had no problems with collection so far.
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I'd heard that they tear very easily if used for branches and shrub cuttings. So for me it was a toss-up between dealing with the frustration of that and living with another bloody bin in the front garden.
I too aim to keep the hessian sacks as my day-to-day workhorses and use them to transport stuff through the house. (I also need to get better at composting!).
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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We have Alison, but it seems bonkers that we have to keep a bin in the garden the whole year when it is only used a fraction of that. I also see the old white waste bags outside folks houses in the forlorn hope they will be collected. I even picked up a load of cuttings next to the bin near the school on Mattison and put them in my bin as I knew they would not be collected and simply sit their attracting more rubbish.
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This makes me so angry. Rather than a single truck collecting waste from households over a wide area we now have multiple vehicles polluting the air and making multiple trips to the get rid of garden waste. Utterly stupid and was entirely predictable when the waste collection changes were being planned.
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