Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Campaign of mass deselections in Haringey!
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Permalink Reply by Melissa Softley on
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Alternative media would probably pick this up and megaphone it. Canary, Vox Political, AAV, Tom Pride, Skwawkbox. Its just the sort of this they would highlight - you may or may not hold them in any regard but they can shift the news agenda.
Or local reporting via the Ham and High newsdesk- although their interest seems to end in Crouch End.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Skwawkbox have all the material they might need. The only people to ever cover it were the Tottenham Journal and Private Eye. It's old news but in the context of Nora's current preoccupation is getting another run.
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Thank you John. It is precisely in the context of Nora being enabled to be presented as *concerned Labour spokesperson* and whether the BBC are just lazy or complicit that i feel this story is important right now.
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I have that producer's number/whatsapp but she's a young lady so asking her what on earth she thinks is going on would be a bit mean and she has the same material as everybody else. A shame, it's almost like the Fagins that didn't do the stealing themselves thinking the little nippers would be treated more leniently and now we're all frightened of children.
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Permalink Reply by Straw Cat on
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Perhaps all those selection meetings apparently packed with new members were really CGI effects a la the Colosseum in Gladiator. Directed by those well known Trots David Lammy and Catherine West.
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You win. That’s a great thought. CGI. Mwah ha ha ha ha.
It wasn’t CGI in Seven Sisters though, was it?
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The council leader sorted out 40 “friends”. The rest was just the local Labour Party members appalled with a state selloff of land. Who knew?
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Permalink Reply by maggie on
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I was at one of these 'packed' meetings.
Everyone was vetted before entering; first it was necesary to show that you were a fully paid up member of the Labour party and that membership was for longer than 6 months, next it was necesary to provide photo ID in the form of a passport or driving licence, next it was necesary to provide proof of address within the ward in the form of council tax payment/ bank statement which dated less than 3 months prior to the meeting.
Once inside the meeting you were not allowed out or re-enter. The meetings were chaired by previously elected chairperson, and was monitored and scutinised by someone from outside of the borough.
Two of the three councillors of Harringay Ward were re-elected, the third place was vacant. Seven candidates provided their statements which included their positions on housing, education, health, transport etc, and how they would represent the interests of their constituents etc.
There was then a vote to determine how many would go forward to a short list.
There was then another vote to determine who would be on that short list.
There was then a further vote to determine the range of questions that the candidates would have to answer.
There was then a further vote as to how long each candidate should be given to speak and a further vote on how long they should have to answer the agreed questions.
A further meeting was then held the following week.
Entry to this meeting was vetted before anyone could enter; first it was necesary to show that you were a fully paid up member of the Labour party and that membership was for longer than 6 months, next it was necesary to provide photo ID in the form of a passport or driving licence, next it was necesary to provide proof of address in the form of council tax payment/ bank statement dated less than 3 months prior to the meeting.
Candidates from the short list then had to speak to the meeting about their position on a wide range of local issues. Each candidate then had to answer previously democratically selected questions.
There was then a futher vote to elect the prospective candidate for councillor to stand in the next election in May 2018.
Now- please tell me how you can just turn up with a dozen friends and family and get them through the door unless they all happen to live in the ward and then how bringing a dozen friends and family could outnumber the forty plus people who were at the meeting.
I have lived in this ward for fifteen years and in Haringey for thirty five years and it was good to see a range of people at the meeting and to see democracy in action.
I also think we owe John Mc a debt of gratitude because since he challenged the election of a candidate in St Anns ward four years ago it is now easier to pass through the eye of a needle than it is to get into a Labour Party selection meeting in this area.
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The link for all you need to know about last time is at the top of the page. Happy Saturday night.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Thank you John, for not "calling things a day" when at the time the Labour Party refused to carry out a proper investigation, though saying it had.
For the record you were also proved right that the Party needed many more members to take an active part and that the old hollowed-out party selection meetings were vulnerable.
What you envisaged was precisely what has since happened, with a massive membership surge - including locally. But also with lessons learned from four years ago. So everyone had to show pieces of ID evidence just to be let into the meeting room.
In my own ward branch the voting and counting was scrutinised and double-checked by members from outside the ward. In at least one ward I heard that someone from the Region attended as well.
It may be worth repeating that many of the sitting councillors now complaining appear to have assumed they deserved to be re-selected automatically. When at a first meeting they were not, they were automatically shortlisted for a second meeting.
Many of them didn't bother turning-up for the second selection meetings. Instead complaining. This was not the case for one of our own ward councillors who wasn't reselected. This person made a good speech. Answered questions and thanked ward members who had organised the meetings.
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