Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Claire Kober is way better than Theresa May!
Our Prime Minister was hubristic enough to call an election, lose it and have to give a bung to a right wing religious group for support.
Our council leader is way better than that. She had a selection timeline forced upon her and tried many times to change it but came home in the end anyway with a fantastic, momentum busting, 64-19 win in Seven Sisters after her colleague Joe Goldberg stepped aside at the last minute.
Weirdly the local Labour party took in £700 on the door in lapsed membership fees from the local Orthodox community, 40 of whom had registered as families back in October 2016 paying the minimum amount and one year in advance. It was gushingly reported on Twitter by local Jonathan Pie wannabe Martin Ball that bleary eyed teenage girls had turned up with their fathers in a pious demonstration of democracy at its finest. There were apparently some grumbles about having to pay for another year but being a member is the important thing!
Well done Claire Kober! It must be amazing to come through all of this after the possible sword of deselection was waved over your head by Dave Hill Momentum.
A local wit asked me what you had done that was wrong and I said that "oh no, it was all within the rules, just not very classy". They said that would be a fitting epitaph for you.
Tags for Forum Posts: labour, selection, sevensisters, stanns
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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There is more detail here.
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Permalink Reply by OleMiss on
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It appears that Ms Kober is only Labour's SECOND worst shortlisted candidate for the local elections next year.
It is always disappointing that so few people acknowledge the cause rather than the effect of poor local representation. An ambitious person can wreak havoc on an unsuspecting constituency. Had Corbyn's supposedly grand and engaged masses lifted the littlest of fingers, Ms Kober and her very small base of right-wing councillors would easily have been ousted. Instead they followed their messiah's example and talked a lot....while doing nothing.
I had an interesting discussion with a significant local land owner today. We talked about the HDV and the ineptitude of the Council. Beyond Lendlease, he cited an ongoing dispute with another favoured developer, Argent. He indicated that they have 'negotiated' another entirely one-sided contract with Haringey Council for the Tottenham Hale area. No downside or upfront risk for them, significant risk and downside for the Council.
Knowing what I do about the calibre of our Councillors, Haringey bureaucrats, and their private-sector partners, I was not at all surprised. Kober, Goldberg and a phalanx of hugely under-achieving pen-pushers have thrown our borough into the troughs of an omnivorous multinational.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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OleMiss How about telling us who you are and where you stand in this? "Skin in the game" seems to be the fashionable phrase. Who is the other anonymous person - the "significant local landowner"?
Sneering at "Corbyn's engaged masses". shows only ignorance of what's happening locally. Including the coalition of people across party and non-party who have worked to challenge the Haringey Destruction Viciousness. (HDV).
I am a longstanding member of Tottenham Hale Labour Party branch. I am not a member of the Progress Party nor Momentum. I attended the initial Tottenham Hale meeting and know the numbers of the result which were read out. However I don't know how most people voted because most of them are new members and they didn't discuss it with me. If they had I would not say.
It was a secret ballot.
As I was in Tottenham Hale ward I didn't see what happened at Seven Sisters ward and I haven't spoken to anyone who was inside and took part in that meeting. I very much doubted that Kober would be deselected or defeated. Though it will be a great result for the borough when it happens.
I am a democratic socialist like it says on my membership card. I will continue to campaign against Kober's Tory policies and and won't be voting for or supporting any candidate who supports the HDV.
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Last time around we had the fantastic @TottenhamCake and the desire to unmask them may be the reason they're no longer around. How about we presume OleMiss is just a new and articulate poster with an interesting viewpoint?
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It appears that Ms Kober is only Labour's SECOND worst shortlisted candidate for the local elections next year.
Wow was that ever a misleading statement. That link only takes the reader to a story that is another mound on the mountain of evidence of the obvious--that the Democrat/Labour parties are the biggest hate groups in their respective countries. The "Respect" party was (is?--are those hatemongers still around?) just to Labour what the Dixiecrats were the to the Democrats.
Is that fraud Galloway still active? I haven't seen him since I sat next to him in a cafe' on Old Brompton Road in South Kensington, he was having a cappuccino a few years back. He's really down with the struggle.
I am a democratic socialistI would love to know the difference between a "democratic socialist" and a "socialist". I would love to have that Brigade Rosse T-shirt Joe Strummer wore in Rude Boy. Any idea where I can get one? You seem like the guy who might know.
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You seem to be asking me a question, Knavel. Sorry to be discourteous but I don't understand anything you wrote.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I’m a bit confused by this. The info sent out to party members says that they shortlisting meeting (the decision whether to automatically re-select siting members or open the competition to prospective candidates) was on Wednesday 8 November.
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-labour-shortli...
If the decision to open the the slate was made there was then to be a selection meeting on Sunday 12th.
As Joe Goldberg stood aside that surely triggered a selection and so a second meeting on Sunday. Or have I got that wrong?
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You’re right. And expect to see yet another local Kurdish businessman coronated in return for their support in Northumberland Park as the only other person on the ticket (Gareth Morgan) is tragically out of the country and at the last minute, won’t be able to attend the selection.
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A diseased system favouring the existing councillors who now get a second chance of selection even if half the branch members who turned-up didn't actually vote to keep them the first time round. At least Eatanswill looked like some people were having fun.
The Election at Eatanswill, Phiz (Hablot K. Browne) August 1836 Steel Engraving. Dickens's Pickwick Papers.
Scanned image and text by Philip V. Allingham.
http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustration/phiz/pickwick/14.html
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Eyewitness account
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/11/11/eyewitness-account-of-anomalous-se...
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OK, as we worked out in St Ann's four years ago, once the result is in, it's in. Nothing can change it.
The bag contained £698 which was back subs from 38 lapsed members. Yes it's a complete stitch up by people who obviously hold the ideals of local democracy a little lower than some of us.
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Thanks for drawing this to our attention..
I have no way of testing or confirming the details of what is said to be an "eye-witness" account. But it appears that, at minimum, a question mark hangs over the selection of the Labour Party's candidates in Seven Sisters.
There is a basic problem that the system has been changed - wrongly in my view - to favour existing ward councillors.
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