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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Owners of Proposed Triple Restaurant in former Fairline/Class A Premises Finally Come Clean

The owners of the almost complete new restaurant in the former Fairline/Class A premises have been pretending for the last year or so that their project was anything but a new restaurant. They even had their agent come on HoL to protest their innocence with regard to any such move.

Of course anyone with half a mind didn't believe them for a moment and they've now finally come clean and have applied for retrospective planning permission.

There are very sound grounds for objection to this development given in Haringey's planning policy and one hopes that the Council will make proper and fair use of these in making their planning determination. 

Local objections, particularly those that can be linked to policy are taken into account and do make a difference. Any resident can object. I am attaching a copy of the LCSP's objection which makes clear which policies can be referenced for your objection.

If you'd like to object, or support, the application, you can do so via the planning pages of Haringey's website here, using the "Comment on Application" button towards the bottom of the page. (EDIT: I made a comment essentially just supporting the LCSP's statement in its entirety).

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The appeal can be on the grounds that the policies have been applied incorrectly, the decision making process was flawed, almost anything in fact. An iniquity of the planning system is that the applicant has the right to appeal against refusal but you and I have no right to appeal (except through a costly Judicial Review) against permission being granted.

When refusing, the officer would have had in the back of their mind whether this would go to appeal and, if it did, would their reasoning and application of policy stand up. A lost appeal is very expensive to the planning authority. Not only in the amount of staff time it takes but the potential for later court action over loss of income by the applicant if the appeal is upheld. The fact that it has been refused makes me hopeful that Haringey feel they have watertight reasons for refusal

Nothing wrong with allowing an appeal (just wish I could appeal against that rather more important decision last June!).

Planning Enforcement letter at the ready...

I understand the restaurant has now opened... how can it open without planning permission ?? What can we do to object and make some real noise?
Zena registered an objection to the application so would be a good place to start. The enforcement case is already live so a direct approach to that team, with evidence that trading has actually started, should push this case up the priority list.

Not particularly fishy, just a little unusual that a council/private JV also handles private applications.  From earlier in the thread, Re is the company that handled the application.

It appears that  Re (Regional Enterprise) Limited is a joint venture between Capita plc and London Borough of Barnet. 51% owned by Capita and 49% by Barnet Council

I've emailed Emma Williamson at Haringey planning for an explanation.

I've always appreciated and agreed that the planning permission approach was underhanded and lacks fair play. I don't want to downplay this fact--but what puzzles me, and what I was hoping the ongoing discussion in this thread would answer for me, is why anyone really is up in arms about a new restaurant. Months on I still have no sense of why the hue and cry. Especially as it's the case that there is no zero sum game of stuff people really want here--I am not reading that because of this restaurant a fishmonger or book shop was prevented from opening up on Green Lanes.

This style of restaurant is what this area has come to be known for and that has considerable economic value. I am missing in this thread how blocking the operation of this restaurant and getting another Pound Plus store or betting parlour with their crap wares all over the sidewalk or stinking smoking punters loitering and causing fear in my children instead of restaurant clientele is some sort of win.

I have been to many if not all of the multiple front restaurants on Green Lanes and my overview is that the food is formatted and mediocre and shows no evidence of establishments wanting to establish a gourmet reputation. Yes, the portions are invariably immense as are the salads, but there is little variation from one restuarant to the other. The food bears no resemblence to authentic Greek food such as you might get on the many small Greek island family run tavernas where there is a history and tradition behind the recipes. These restaurants on Green Lanes are mere food kitchens catering for the lowest common demoninator, who roll up and disgorge families from their SUVs. So why would we want another one?

Spot on. And more over the fact that they have flaunted the rules to open with no consideration for residents above makes it all the more reason to block this from opening, not to mention the shoddy and dated aesthetics.

I didn't want to mention the shoddy and dated aesthetics.

They're not Greek, I'm not sure any claim to be. They're Turkish or Kurdish.

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