Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
We the residents decided to reopen the roads, says Council
How about this for damned cheek. The latest councillors' briefing explains that the Ladder roads were closed last night (Thursday) at the request of the police. It goes on to say that they've been reopened this evening (Friday) after consultation with the residents.
Has anyone been consulted?
See full briefing attached,
Has anyone been consulted?
See full briefing attached,
Tags for Forum Posts: grit, gritting, ice, snow
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Permalink Reply by Sapphireblue on
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Tried to drive up Mattieson 2 nights ago,got stuck,near crash into parked cars,wheels spinning ,rolled slowly back down a bit,turned car, drove slowly back down wrong way,phew made it back to G Lanes. Not trying that again.
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Permalink Reply by Cartiledge on
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I agree. People do stupid and dangerous things in these circumstances (like walking on ice covered ponds) and sometimes need to have their activities proscribed by 'official' action.
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If I don't want to be flooded everytime there is a full moon or a neap tide I wont buy a house near the sea, if I dont want to be covered in six foot of sand everytime there is a desert storm I wont buy a house in the Iraqi desert. If I dont want to have problems driving my 4x4 up an icy incline I wont buy a house on a hill. Come on, do you guys have any idea how much salt the council would have to stockpile to grit every single road in haringay ? Then you would moan why your Council Tax has gone up 25 %. Excuse the pun, but get a grip :)
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Milo, the issue under discussion isn't about the road being gritted. I think most of us accept that not all roads can be gritted. This thread is about the decisions to open and close the roads and a claimed consultation that apparently never happened.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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I contacted the council earlier in the week to request that further consider be given to the ladder roads given their steepness and that many of them had become particularly treacherous, either they be gritted or the more dangerous ones be closed off, as residents had contacted me requesting this as vehicles were slipping and sliding all over the place! I also read with interest the update from the council that residents had been consulted - as one of the local councillors for Harringay ward I would have expected to have been kept in the loop of any consultation/discussion - I wasn't either!
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Beresford road had a few mishaps before a closed sign was put up - quite a few white van drivers ended up with problems. The road is deceptive, looks quite flat as you enter it, and then about half way down it becomes steep - at which point people were putting their brakes on...... you can imagine the consequences.
I think it would be great if (as Malcom said), we could get a decision based on actual safety from the highways department for most of the roads.
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Permalink Reply by Gina Adamou on
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Along with the rest of London and the country we have only limited salt supplies remaining and therefore have to restrict gritting to main priority roads. I'm receiving similar emails and i know the situation is the same across London.This is the response I had from the Leaders office to my many emails
Cllr. Gina Adamou
Harringay Ward
Sorry not to be more helpful
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Thanks for the comment Gina. I think we accept that. The issue here is about the council apparently going against police advice to close the Ladder roads and claiming to have consulted the residents over the decisions.
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This afternoon the council received a request to reduce our use of salt in order to conserve supplies.
All boroughs have been asked by the London Local Authority Co-ordination Committee to focus gritting operations to a resilience network of roads.
These are the main routes in Haringey including major bus routes but excluding most residential roads. The effect will be to limit some hopper buses and officers are liaising with London Buses accordingly.
Cllr. Gina Adamou
Harringay Ward
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That's a shame about the hopper buses, Gina. I guess I'll have to do without my Wightman Bus till the road thaws. Oh my mistake, we've still got some true grit on Wightman so a shopping bus would be great. Pity nobody ever thought of that before.
Vulnerable of Wightman Rd.
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Gina,
That quite frankly is not the case.
Onslow Gardens in N10 is not a major route, and is less steep than some of the Ladder roads. It is simply a residential road, just the same as ours, yet it has Priority 1 status and has had grit overnight.
The same holds for other quiet roads in Muswell Hill and Highgate.
This is a disgrace. The council cannot say that they are only gritting major roads, when clearly they are also favouring those quiet residential roads in richer areas of the borough. Haringey Council ought to be ashamed and should stop fibbing.
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