Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The Hub at Turnpike Lane - Rabbit Hutch Studio Apartments
Many people will have noted the large, ugly white building looking over Ducketts Common, which has just been completed. If it looks bad from the outside, then a look inside (via Paul Simon's website - (http://www.paulsimonhomes.net/?property=the-hub&community_featu...) - shows it is even worse inside. The gallery of photographs of these "studio apartments" shows what looks like rabbit hutches, with barely any space. The gallery of photos is hilarious - the rooms are so small they have had to use wide angle lenses to get even part of the room in the shot. There's no information about the size of the apartments, but they look tiny even by the standards of contemporary developments. If anyone has had a chance to look inside, it would be instructive to hear views of the real thing, as opposed to the photos. Paul Simon are well and truly living up to the standards we have come to expect from them. It is a disgrace that Haringey Council have allowed such a dreadful development.
My apologies if there is already a thread on this.
Tags for Forum Posts: development, haringey council, hub, paul simon, turnpike lane
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Permalink Reply by 0l7ft44vlytse on
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They look alright. The outside of the building isn't very nice, but these will do for a lot of people, I lived happily in a smaller place for the same price.
The property across the way at the beginning of West Green Road is a nice example of making a property a lot bigger while keeping a nice frontage, they've done a good job on that one.
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Better a rabbit hutch than a bed in a shed.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I think Christopher was trying to raise standards, not stop stuff being built.
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Permalink Reply by Christopher Fowler on
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Thanks for understanding, John and others. I am all in favour of new homes, flats etc, but only so long as at least 50% of a new development is for "social housing" (what at one time we would have called "council housing"). I think this is the policy of the new Mayor, Sadiq Khan. I certainly hope so. But I do think the tendency of developers to cram as many houses or flats onto the land they have, making the overall size of each home far too small, and with no space left for storage, is to be deplored. People have a right not just to an affordable home, but also a decent one. What appalled me, when I looked at the Paul Simon website, was how small and cramped the "studio apartments" were.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Harding on
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I do agree, but surely there has to be some real world geographical limitations as to where this is realistically achievable.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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People renting beds in sheds are unlikely to be able to afford one of these. As John and Christopher said this kind of development isn't answering the need of people forced to sleep in sheds.
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A quick reminder of what development could look like when driven by the community
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Yaay! I'm such a supporter of this project. It still needs £10k for the crowdfunder...........
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I know there are worse things to worry about in the scheme of things on the housing topic - but surely the 'advert' on the front which is basically a permanent billboard isn't allowed in terms of planning? Or can you stick what you want on the front of your property as long as it's freehold ? Does anyone know?
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Lest we forget-the ground floor of this building was used as a Drop In Day Centre for the over 60s. It was managed by Tina and Rita with respect, love and care for the 100 plus elderly people who would "drop in" for breakfast tea and toast, morning coffee, a cooked lunch and pudding and, more importantly, daily socialising with friends. The Day Centre also held a Christmas Party, Easter Hat Parade and day trips to the coast during the summer.
It was closed due to central government expenditure cuts to Local Authority spending about 4 years ago; alongside the fact that the lease was "coming up" for renewal. Zena Brabazon and David Schmitz will well remember the negotiations, sadness and upsets the Drop-In users had to endure. The old building sat there, empty, for almost 3 years.
This thread has suggestions of incredible sums of money being made by the sale of these properties-I wonder what profit was made originally with the sale of the land? Whatever the financial facts, how miopic of Haringey Council to not look at a public/private venture that could have allowed the centre to remain open with subsidies from the developed properties. Yay I hear many of you shout, this would merely serve to increase the cost of the dwellings but is it not true that a society is judged on how it cares for its elderly?
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Gosh they are TINY.
Judging from picture 4 (at http://www.paulsimonhomes.net/?property=the-hub&community_featu...) if that lamp is normal size the front room must be 800mm square.
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