Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The future of Wood Green: details of staffed sessions and workshop
A CONSULTATION ON OPTIONS FOR A LONG-TERM PLAN AND IDEAS FOR SHORT-TERM PROJECTS
Informed by the findings of previous consultation stages, options have been developed to deliver long-term improvements to Wood Green. We would like to invite you to have your say on these options and to give us your ideas for short-term projects as well. There are several ways to do this:
PUBLIC EXHIBITION, UNTIL SATURDAY 19 MARCH
Visit the staffed sessions and fill in the easy to use survey.
Staffed sessions - opening times
Tuesday 1 March | 11am-4pm
Thursday 3 March | 3-8pm
Saturday 5 March | 11am-4pm
Monday 7 March | 3-8pm
Wednesday 9 March | 9.30-2.30pm
Friday 11 March | 12-5pm
Tuesday 15 March | 12-5pm
Thursday 17 March | 9.30-2.30pm
Saturday 19 March | 11am-4pm
ONLINE SURVEY, UNTIL SUNDAY 20 MARCH
Join in and take the online survey, either at home or at the exhibition.
On the website www.haringey.gov.uk/woodgreen
Direct link to the online survey: goo.gl/forms/K9KTQfXM3m
PUBLIC WORKSHOP, THURSDAY 10 MARCH
Book and join in our public workshop to develop responses within a group.
Preview exhibition and registration - 5.30pm-6.15pm
Workshop starts at 6.30pm-8.30pm
If possible, please let us know if you can come
by sending us an email before the 5th March.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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There is a contact email address to book a place at the public workshop. Follow the link below.
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/have-your-say-on-the-fu...
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Permalink Reply by Finsbury Park Ranger on
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So I went yesterday and it looked pretty good, the idea of levelling the shopping centre and starting again with a ground based new centre near the library seemed like a good idea.
It seems the only real debate is between choice number 3 or number 4. One crossrail station in central Wood Green or two on the edges.
I think the council needs to make a better arguement for number 4 ( one wood green station) if they believe in it so much because at the moment, two just seems a better choice than one.
I think choice number 4 means knocking down all the cinema's but if that means replicating crouch ends lavish new cinema later, I say bring it on.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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What, blowing up the whole of Shopping City? Surely not. Or just part it?
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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And what of the people who live above Shopping City? What will be done to them while they "re-develop"? Or was that not mentioned?
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Maybe they'll get a cosy subsidised council flat for life somewhere else ?
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No such thing. No one gets a council flat for life any more. And council tenants pay rent. They are "subsidised" by no one. I'm disappointed in you FPR. I thought you were better informed than that.
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Council tenants who are on secure tenancies will continue to enjoy a secure tenancy for life. Harringey, I imagine, would move the tenants above the shopping centre to a new home and move their tenancy agreement with them.
If not Wood Green shopping centre would ironically end up in a battle for years to 'save it'.
Out of interest, could I hear the arguement for the idea that social housing isn't subsidised, I'm not familiar with that one. Have all the costs of social housing been repaid by the rent received from tenants all these years ? If so, considering they could save the nation a fortune, why didn't A clever political party just build one council house for every family so we all have really cheap rents forever ?
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And are council properties being built in the new development? Or will they be "affordable" housing and not available to council tenants as in other developments? If not, do we know if there are suitable properties for them in Haringey - this seems unlikely as there is a v large waiting list- so where will they be offered places? If outside the borough, will they be treated as new tenants and so lose security of tenure under the new rules? What will leaseholders be offered for their flats? Will it be enough to cover a property in the new development? (Usually, the answer is no but maybe Haringey will do the right thing?). As the development will be done privately, the simple questions remain. What housing will be built there? Who will it be for? What happens to current residents? How much will it cost to buy/rent a property there? Who collects the rent?
I'm going to be popping along next week so I can ask these questions myself so don't feel the need to answer any of this. But bear in mind that so far redevelopment of areas where poorer residents live has meant a lot of displacement and misery for communities. And it's been Labour councils who've led the way doing this. I hope you're right FPR that everyone will be housed in the new Wood Green. Let's ask if this will be the case.
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The current cost of housing people in the UK is £6.6 billion a year according to the Hills report. Let's hope there are not too many more people that need housing or we'll have to leave Europe or change the rules on tenancy agreements to ensure there is some money left to provide the next generation with a decent education.
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"A clever political party would just build one council house for every family". Ah, but where's the profit in that?
Yes, the cost of social housing is paid from rent but over a longer term than in the private sector. Typically 30-40 years. That is unless a property is taken out of the social rented sector under the Right to Buy which subsidises home ownership.
The reason that councils no longer build social housing is that they are prohibited from doing so. Housing associations and other social landlords were supposed to fill that gap but as right to buy proposals extend to them they will be in the same position councils are now; huge demand but dwindling stock to meet it.
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Labour was in power in government not just haringey council, why didn't they do it when they were in power ?
There is a reason.
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