This from Cllr Seema Chandawani:
WHO GETS IT?
HOW?
WHAT IF I DONT PAY BY DIRECT DEBIT?
BUT I AM NOT LIABLE FOR COUNCIL TAX…
I LIVE IN A BAND E-H PROPERTY
I'M IN COUNCIL TAX DEBT
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Regarding the 3rd dot point, please don't claim this rebate if you can afford not to. Remember, government money is needed to pay for government and council services, to pay for our armed forces and police to keep us safe and to fund the NHS. Its ludicrous that this isn't means tested.
You actually believe the government will spend this money on public services? They've cut every one as a political decision as they are ideologically opposed to public services. With tax increases in the pipeline and huge additional costs as a direct result of government choices, everyone has a duty to ensure they receive this.
The money will probably stay in Haringey Council's coffers and they'll use it to replace signage.
With the renaming of Black Boy Lane's total real cost likely to be close to £300,000 there could be a lot more support for energy poor people in Haringey if the council could get it's priorities right. I'm sure they'll find someone else to blame for it all.
What has any local authority to do with the price of energy?
Nothing. Who said they did? I said that the council would have more money to support the energy poor if they didn't go around blowing hundreds of thousands on renaming streets. Priorities. People and services first.
Money wasted on renaming streets or dropping millions on flawed property deals means there is less money to help the vulnerable in Haringey. The council can't then be taken seriously when they say the government won't give them enough money.
Firstly the money for the £150 rebate and the discretionary fund is from central government. At the end of the year there will be a financial reconciliation and underspend will go back to the government and overspend left to each local authority to fund. Secondly I don’t imagine a local authority has the legal powers to give money to help those in fuel poverty. Happy to be corrected if anyone knows of legislation that will allow that
Who has said the money doesn't come from the government? My point is that the council could do a lot to help families experiencing poverty as a result of the energy crisis or just generally if it didn't waste so money money elsewhere.
In what way could do that? If it were even permitted for local authorities to spend money helping those in fuel poverty, those areas with the poorest populations would spend more than those with better off populations. As poorer populations are more likely to be in receipt of council tax benefits, the overall income from council tax would be hit hardest in areas with the least amount of council tax income.. Those councils would then have the option of raising council tax to cover the shortfall, making poorer people poorer, or reducing other services to pay for it. Either option leaves poorer residents with less.
Hi John
I was briefed on this today. This money is being administered by the local authority and will be going to everyone eligible as set out above. Huge efforts are being made to ensure it gets out to people in a timely manner and that people claim their energy rebate.
Zena
Zena Brabazon
Cllr, Harringay ward
Phillip, people and companies pay tax
Government uses that money to provide services. The level and quality of those services is determined by the amount of money raised.
Overspending, wastage or lower tax revenue means that either those services are reduced or we borrow money to pay for it. That money is repaid with interest which reduces the amount of money available for services in future years.
Something like a global financial crisis (no, not caused by a Jewish cabal) reduces the amount of tax revenue plus increases the volume of services needed (because fewer people have jobs and or they spend less so income tax and VAT revenue goes down).
We almost recovered and then we had Covid. Billions were spent on PPE and furlough. We borrowed and will be repaying for years.
I'd rather the wealthy didn't claim the rebate so it can be given to those who really need it.
We don't "claim" it. We get it automatically.
If I could afford to live in a higher council tax band property, I wouldn't get the rebate.
What I do with the money is up to me, but for me it's nowhere near what I already give to charities and community organisations.
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