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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I was a bit annoyed to see Devran at the bottom of Pemberton hogging such a vast swathe of the pavement at the weekend with their 6 seat table spreading towards the road, but hey, look at what I saw this morning.

Do not get me wrong, I like the cafe street culture that has sprung up, but a little restraint is sometimes necessary. I think the council are making this a bit of a priority as the traders who normally spread their wears such that you have to walk in the gutter at times seems to have been reigned in. Well done them.

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Of course we could make the footpaths wider and push a lot of that traffic somewhere else...

Not somewhere else but off the streets entirely. I wouldn't sit at an outside table on Green Lanes! I'd spend the whole time picturing the state of my lungs.

I believe that businesses can rent space, and there is a chap in the council who keeps his eye on all this. I believe Costa (for example) asked for space recently and were turned down because of the amount of the pavement they wanted to take up.

Yes, I spoke to the chap at Turkish Food Market on the corner of Umfreville and he said they were charged quite a staggering amount for the privilege of selling fruit and veg outside.  I can't remember how much it was exactly but I remember thinking at the time that you'd have to sell one helluva lot of cucumbers and bananas to cover it....

£130 for a three year licence. Hardly staggering considering the extra street cleaning costs they can generate

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/business/licensing-and-regulations/licen...
My daughter tripped over one of their signs a few months ago that was protruding a little bit further out than it should have and they told me in no uncertain terms it was my fault and that as a mother I should have been watching her more closely. I bet you can guess where I don't eat out any more...
Please report it Bec. When I checked with Haringey a few months ago they told me that they don't allow any pavements signs/A boards at all.

They (TFM) were reined in some months ago for spreading wares on the pavement beyond the terms of their licence - and they have stuck to the licence since then.  Not taking you on Michael but they are regularly out with the broom themselves, and they will have a commercial waste disposal contract.  

I find Costa's pavement occupation more constrictive.

Being "regularly out with the broom themselves" is precisely the sort of behaviour I'd hope for and expect from a sensible business. People who understand that potential customers' good first - and ongoing - impressions are not helped by litter, and bags of crap on the pavement.
In other words that clean-looking pavements and streets are good for healthy profits in the same way that washed floors and promptly cleared, clean tables are good for a restaurant's business.
Isn't this a variation of the broken windows theory?

I don't speak for TFM or any shop on GL, but TFM - which is at my road end so I see this regularly - sweep up and collect fallen produce to go into their waste bins.  

And yes Alan it's, um, well, Good Housekeeping.   

And good business. Which is next to good neighbourliness.
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Though there's not much we can do about this while the Council spends its time, energy and remaining resources driving off the HDV privatisation cliff.

And I notice we're a little blind these days to the space taken up at the side of the road by "parked" motor vehicles. I must admit that it has only been Hugh's posting of historic photographs of Harringay that has alerted me to the fact that the streets looked a lot friendlier and had children playing in them before they were allowed to be used for motor vehicle storage.

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