Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Skanky Phone Boxes on GL- Consultation
OK, if you are sick of the nasty phone boxes on GL this is your big change to get rid of some, or all of them. See this consultation and hopefully we can get rid of a few of them, and more importantly, get some of the valuable footpath back!
I doubt any one of them has been used in the last 3 years for its intended purpose!
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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This consultation is being run by Haringey Council, and is open until June 18th.
"We want run-down phone boxes that attract crime and anti-social behaviour removed from our streets and are calling on anyone that lives, works or travels through Haringey to help us locate them.
Tell us where the problem phone boxes are, your experience with them, and which ones you want removed.
We will use this information to contact the phone companies who own them and get them removed. Together we can show the owners that we no longer want these blights in our borough".
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Phone box location: 509 Green lanes N4 1AN (old postoffcie) a major problem with sex and drug activities on a daily basis.
I have raised this with BT, POlice and the council (fingers cross)
Regards
Onic
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Onic, you might also want to chip in on this consultation, since your comment reads as though you've previously tried to get some action as you said in a couple of threads a few weeks ago.
This is a brand new initiative launched just yesterday. Justin's given an internet link at the word Consultation, to get everyone started. Good luck in your endeavours!
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I saw a high vis vestor cleaning the one out the front of Onic's new shop this morning. First time ever.
I'd be glad to see them all removed. This is an opportunity to also remove those rectangular advertising walls that were installed a few years ago. They clutter the footpaths, reduce visibility of what's coming and create pedestriam choke points. Their only function appears to be to provide a flat space for posters promoting terrorist groups, 'black massage' (whatever that is) and something for tramps to slump against.
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I agree with that. But why stop there? Why not shops, houses and othet location where anti social behaviour is rife?
At least with the phone boxes, the anti social behaviour is mostly hidden from passers by.
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I think you're on to something there Cem. The phone boxes do serve to contain the anti-social behaviour and shield it from the public gaze. Following that logic maybe we actually need more of these designated anti-social behaviour boxes spread around the place.
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That's a very civic minded suggestion. And the bin men could lift them up and empty the contents into the Veoila trucks every fortnight. Solves so many problems.
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Permalink Reply by Martin (Woodside) on
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Ironically, a brand phone new phone box complete with scrolling advertisments on the back has been installed opposite the bus garage in Wood Green, it replaced a temporary grey cabinet that must have been used to demarcate the site.
As for the box in Green Lanes, even though everybody seems to own a mobile these days, there may be a regulatory (Ofcom) obligation to provide such a service for public use. I reiterate the word 'may' as this is only conjecture on my part borne from past experiences.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Ofcom has placed an obligation on BT to retain phone boxes in areas with poor network access. That accounts for about 5,000 of the 12,000 they currently have. Telecoms equipment such as phone boxes aren’t subject to the same planning regulations as other structures so they are quite lucrative, not for call revenue but because they allow BT to bypass advertising regulations.
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From what my father told me, at one of the coronations (pre-WW2) the incoming monarch made a pledge that no-one in the United Kingdom should be more than an allocated distance from a phone box, thus allowing the new technology to be available to all of his subjects. That is probably why you often saw the kiosks on verges in the middle of nowhere, but they would effectively be within reach of more than one village.
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Diamond Geezer, the blogger who posted about Wightman Road not long ago, also ran a post about BT and manipulation of planning regs to install “street hubs” on their existing phone box sites. Perhaps not relevant to most of the ones on GL, but more here, if you’re interested: http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2023/02/street-clutter.html
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