Shooting in Wood Green

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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on July 12, 2015 at 13:35

Sure, I do not know what was deleted so I cannot really have a problem with it I guess.

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Permalink Reply by HoL Site Admin on July 12, 2015 at 13:43

This might help.

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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on July 13, 2015 at 9:47

This is shocking. The police have suggested that the victim may not have been the intended victim.

If so, then it could have been any one of us, which makes it even more reckless and frightening. Erdogan (Eddie) Guzel was a husband and father. I wish the police every luck in finding the killer responsible.

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Permalink Reply by John D on July 13, 2015 at 9:53

Clive.

I'm not sure that shooting the wrong person is worse than shooting the intended one. That seems to imply that the intended victim in some measure deserved to be shot

Nobody should be shot.

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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on July 13, 2015 at 10:53

That seems to imply that the intended victim in some measure deserved to be shot

That is not the implication, not even remotely.

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Permalink Reply by Norah Borough on July 13, 2015 at 12:12

I agree, that seems to be the implication.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on July 24, 2015 at 21:03

I'd say that (usually) for something to escalate to murder it would imply the other party had done something to upset the murderer. Now considering automatic weapons were used one could, i think fairly, presume that the intended target has some connection to this world/lifestyle. If that's the case then they're more likely than the average citizen to partake themselves in illegal acts, including acts of extreme violence. Following that thought I'd say it's better the real target was hit than an innocent bystander.

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Permalink Reply by Norah Borough on July 24, 2015 at 21:13

Wild assumption! You can't imply that an intended victim of murder is guilty of a crime. It's just absurd.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on July 25, 2015 at 5:38

I wouldn't say wild assumption - from what's been reported, the levels of violence and the weapons used seems to indicated organised/gang crime - you don't generally become a target in such a way without having upset them badly/being in opposition. As the intended target doesn't seem to be any form of law enforcement or other legal opposition the only other real answer is business/gang rivalry. I don't see this as a far stretched explaination.

If you have any other more valid reasons why someone would be targeted with an automatic weapon, please do share as I'd be curious as to what they may be.

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Permalink Reply by Norah Borough on July 25, 2015 at 10:02

I think it's best to wait until the investigation before throwing around such comments. I recall a story in recent years about a family in Londo who were eating dinner, a child sitting with them was being treated harshly. Another customer asked the child if he was OK. Now, the father of the child walked out of the restaurant, came back and shot the concerned customer dead because he felt undermined by someone looking out for his kid. He upset a murderer....

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Permalink Reply by Junior Bennett on July 20, 2015 at 10:37

The police have suggested or confirmed? these things are actually very important.

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Permalink Reply by Norah Borough on July 13, 2015 at 14:08

My thoughts are with the victims of this crime and their families. It doesn't make me feel less safe about being in Wood Green. Attacks like this are very unusual.

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