Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Rubbish scam
This evening, I happened to be glancing out of the window and saw a man go to my neighbours and then trot back and forth up the road before jumping in a van parked outside my house (with a fridge freezer strapped to the top). This aroused my curiousity and when I looked across the road, there was this pile of rubbish piled up by the barrier
I suspect my neighbour is blissfully unaware of what has happened to his rubbish.
This is not the first time this scam has been pulled in this road. Some builders working for me fell for it...the rubbish was thrown in a garden across the road (which of course they retrieved with much apology to the neighbour).
There were 2 men, one older white man with grey hair and a younger black man with a baseball cap on.
Just a warning in case they call at your door
Of course, as most people on the site are now aware, Haringey will remove a lot of things for free or for less than 20 quid however, these guys may be exploiting that these things
* Rubble
* Masonry and tiles
* Construction waste
* Waste from house renovations
are NOT collected
I suspect my neighbour is blissfully unaware of what has happened to his rubbish.
This is not the first time this scam has been pulled in this road. Some builders working for me fell for it...the rubbish was thrown in a garden across the road (which of course they retrieved with much apology to the neighbour).
There were 2 men, one older white man with grey hair and a younger black man with a baseball cap on.
Just a warning in case they call at your door
Of course, as most people on the site are now aware, Haringey will remove a lot of things for free or for less than 20 quid however, these guys may be exploiting that these things
* Rubble
* Masonry and tiles
* Construction waste
* Waste from house renovations
are NOT collected
Tags for Forum Posts: dumping, fly tipping, rubbish, scam
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Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on
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This is extremely popular and we have been asked several times. For twenty quid they'll take it all to the tip, will they eck!
I am pretty sure my wife knows someone who has been prosecuted for this - they were unaware that it was being dumped on the next road.
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Permalink Reply by Danzigger on
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Yep - these guys knocked on my door yesterday evening. Friendly enough, but dodgy.
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Permalink Reply by Julie on
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I found them offering to remove my neighbours' rubbish. I intervened and gave the neighbour the council number. She had just moved in and hadn't lived in England before. I explained that the tip was closed so they couldn't be taking the stuff there, as they'd said they would, and that the council would take most of it in the wheelie bin, for free, if she rang them and got a bin delivered.
They were deeply annoyed with me and followed me home, shouting and raving at me because she'd just been about to part with forty quid. It was very satisfying.
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Permalink Reply by james walsh on
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We should also be aware that you will be criminally prosecuted for employing non registered rubbish removers. Very serious.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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They sound extremely unpleasant fellows when crossed so I have contacted SNT to let them know these people are around.
Your story, Julie, also illustrates a point that Alan and I have discussed on Flickr that people unfamiliar to the system will either be open to exploitation or may look around to see what others do and copy. On Green Lanes, they may conclude that you can put your rubbish out anywhere, anytime. On the side streets, they may think it okay to dump things at certain popular points because they are cleared.
The waste disposal system should be something that is easy enough for people to find out about when they move into an area. The estate agent when handing over the keys could also do the community a favour by giving new owners/tenants a leaflet about rubbish disposal. A landlord should ensure the correct size and number of bins are available and provide phone numbers for disposal (pinned on the wall?, council fridge magnets? ideally a welcome pack of info). These things are not hard to implement and I'm sure most estate agents, for example, wouldn't mind providing a leaflet at some stage during the transaction.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Hatch on
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I have mentioned this to my colleagues many times in the past Liz - I would gladly add recycling info, refuse collection times etc. Into a welcome pack.
It would be great if the local authority provided these for our folders.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Yes, indeed. from time to time I've proposed this to some of my councillor colleagues. And to Haringey officers. But so far, it's like dropping a pebble down a bottomless well.
Yet, if you think about it for more than two minutes, it's seems an intuitively obvious approach - at least to try out.
In fact there are are number of problems where the right information given in a useful format at the key time could have a large impact. For example, Liz and I talked about - and probably posted on this site - a suggestion for getting vendors of Christmas trees to hand out a free decoration which tells people about arrangements for recycling trees into compost.
Or maybe the reality is counter-intuitive; and perhaps lots of go-ahead local councils have tried this sort of scheme and found it doesn't work.
But give it a go, Steve. Maybe you'll get a positive reply.
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I will gladly do that Alan.
Any names or suggestions... who would be best to approach with this?
No disrespect to anyone at the council, but I really don't fancy starting with the receptionist for obvious reasons.
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Been giving this subject more thought and I have just posted a
'Did you know' type bit of advice about having bulky items collected cheaply or for free...
This features on the front page of our website www.castles.uk.com which is currently receiving in the region of 300 visits a day (all with the intention of becoming potential new residents of Harringay).
This is working along the theme of highlighting the system at grass roots and minimising customers for the band of Rubbish Relocators!
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I suppose this is where all the rubish on hewitt road has come from. I even had to remove a large broken african drum! from the middle of the street after navigating my way through all the sofas in the path and piles of excrement. I just emailed the council to ask what they can do to help.
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Permalink Reply by Harringay Birder on
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But what to do, Liz, when the landlords are throwing the broken furniture into their front gardens themselves...?!
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It's time, Paulie, for an appropriate and well-deserved reward for these wonderful neighbourhood-minded citizens! I'd suggest some crowd-sourced cameraphone or webcam shots to record them for posterity.
We could even institute some awards as a way to give full public recognition to their munificent donations.
How about a Tosscar for abandoned old tyres or car parts? Or a Grot award for best pile of rubbish bags? There could be special categories such as worst landlord; or smelliest garbage.
All it needs is for anyone around to seize the moment and click away; then post online a selection of photos which can truly inspire all of us.
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